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916M: Yes, yes, yes, to Parti Barisan Rakyat!

This is certainly an excellent idea, something which we advocated at the time when Anwar was tantalizing defections per 916.

Yes, agree, we certainly need quality lawmakers, and certainly not the crapmakers whom we now have.

Firstly, we need to look from the point of view of practicality, especially in so far as election machinery and funding are concerned. Yes, you have qualified that “if an effective election machinery were in place”. Now, would we be able to set up an effective election machinery in time? Well, we think it is possible, if Barisan Rakyat gets started now, not later, and we need not aim for the kind of funds needed, but we battle smart, using technologies like Facebook and email campaigns.

So, yes, register Barisan Rakyat as a political party now, and build up its election machinery, election strategies and war chest. (If we really want to see Barisan Rakyat as a force to be reckoned with, we cannot run away from the fact that discipline has to be instituted, and this has to be through party mechanisms; ok, Barisan Rakyat need not be a 100% political party, but some basic form of constitution or standing orders must be in place.)

Secondly, which constituencies will Barisan Rakyat contest in? Yes, you had said the following: “‘third force of independent candidates comprising the best that civil society has to offer, augmenting the best from Pakatan Rakyat, to take on BN come the 13th GE’. No room for 3-corner fights here.” But how do we negotiate with Pakatan to avoid the said 3-corner fights? Knowing them politicians, we doubt if they will give way to Barisan Rakyat. Some of Pakatan’s lawmakers may be hopeless, but we cannot deny that Pakatan is at least for now our hope, and unless the said third force comes into play. Therefore, our view is that Barisan Rakyat can only be viable if 3 corner fights can be avoided.

Perhaps too a good strategy will be to field Barisan Rakyat candidates in places where people like Zahrain, Tan, Wee Choo Keong, etc, ie hopeless independents are incumbents, and also where UMNO currently are lawmakers (just hit UMNO, no need to hit the other parties, as the main troublemaker is actually UMNO). Barisan Rakyat will have to negotiate with Pakatan Rakyat on this, in return for Barisan Rakyat’s support for Pakatan Rakyat’s candidates elsewhere. Yes, it would certainly be counterproductive if there were 3-corner fights.

Thirdly, Barisan Rakyat ought to field a good number of candidates, some of whom must include notable candidates like yourself, RPK (if you guys can convince him), Imtiaz, etc. Like it or not, you really need iconic figures.

Fourthly, focus on the parliamentary seats, ie do not run for state seats. Try to achieve the balance of power status at the federal level, because this is where the control is. Barisan Rakyat, will not be able to build up sufficient resources by GE13, so you guys must focus on where it will be most effective.

Some food for thought.

Over to you.

916 Movement

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Haris Ibrahim: DNBN Kuburkan BN: Enter the Third Force

Pakatan Rakyat and a great many of the rakyat have one common aspiration : to kick the present corrupt BN government out come the 13th General Election.

That’s any time between now and 8th May, 2013.

Many feel it’s going to be very much sooner rather than later.

Possibly even next year.

Imagine, as the results are announced, come the 13th GE, and it becomes evident that BN has lost.

Then imagine the next day that, instead of a Pakatan Rakyat leader being appointed Prime Minister, news starts to make its way around that several Pakatan Rakyat MPs have gone ‘missing’.

Talk of cross-overs abound.

Two days later, Muhyiddin appears at a press conference, surrounded by former Pakatan Rakyat MPs, who now declare themselves as BN-friendly independent MPs.

Enough former Pakatan Rakyat MPs who are now independent and BN-friendly for Muhyiddin to claim to have the confidence of the majority in the Dewan Rakyat and consequently the right to the PMship.

We have seen enough since the 12th GE to know that unless candidates of unquestionable integrity are picked to contest, the scenario I have described above is a very distinct possibility, if not a near probability.

The sad truth, however, is that the three Pakatan Rakyat parties just do not have enough good men and women within their ranks to contest all parliamentary and state seats.

Throw in PSM in semenanjung and SAPP in Sabah and they still would not have enough.

Truth is that the three Pakatan Rakyat parties have, with a view to improving the quality within their ranks, approached many in civil society who are perceived as good candidate material to join their respective parties, without too much success.

I, too, have approached some of those in civil society who, in my view, have the qualities that would serve the nation and the rakyat well in parliament and who have intimated to me that whilst they are not at all desirous of getting into any political party set-up, they are prepared to do their part in setting our nation right and, to that end, would be honoured to offer themselves as independent candidates in the next general election if an effective election machinery were in place.

A third force of independent candidates comprising the best that civil society has to offer, augmenting the best from Pakatan Rakyat, to take on BN come the 13th GE?

We could call this third force Barisan Rakyat.

Would this not be viable?

Your thoughts, please.

Source: http://harismibrahim.wordpress.com/2010/08/08/dnbn-kuburkan-bn-enter-the-third-force/#comment-55020

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916M: Let Pak Lah be PM!!!

RPK has got a good point, yes, the fact that when Najib is confirmed as the President of UMNO does not mean that he is automatically the Prime Minister of Malaysia.

Indeed, Najib has to seek the confidence of the majority of members of the Parliament, and then consent from the Agung before he becomes the Prime Minister.

OK, taking off from where RPK has left off, this is what Pakatan can do.

Anwar can move a motion of confidence in Pak Lah (what a twist!), and there will certainly be 83 in favour from the floor, let Pak Lah’s boys roundup the 20 from Umno, and leave it to Pak Lah’s boys to get another 9, and presto! we will then have for the first time, the Prime Minister who is not the President of Umno.

What a good change!

Well, something to think about, and certainly something to keep those boys busy so that they do not continue to wreck the country.

916 Movement

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Malaysia-Today: 14 days is a long time in politics

Posted by admin

Wednesday, 11 March 2009 02:10

The Federal Constitution merely states that the Agong shall appoint the Prime Minister from amongst a Member of the House who, in Tuanku’s opinion, commands the confidence of the majority of the Members of the House. It says nothing about the Prime Minister having to be the President of Umno or the Chairman of Barisan Nasional.

THE CORRIDORS OF POWER

Raja Petra Kamarudin

Moreover, Mr. Najib brings to the job much political baggage. In particular there is the case involving an adviser to Mr. Najib of a Mongolian woman who was shot and blown up with specialized C4 plastic explosives in Malaysia in 2006. The adviser, the woman’s former lover, was cleared of ordering her death in a protracted court case that drew harsh public criticism and left vital questions unanswered. Two members of an elite police bodyguard unit assigned to Mr. Najib, who were asked by the adviser to “do something” about the woman because she was blackmailing him, have to answer murder charges. The adviser said he had contacted the two policemen through Mr. Najib’s aide-de-camp, and one of them, a chief inspector, testified that the aide-de-camp had instructed him to help the adviser.

Before the adviser was charged, Mr. Najib sent a text message to a lawyer representing his adviser saying that the adviser “will have to face a tentative charge but all is not lost,” according to a transcript of their exchanges. One of the country’s most popular bloggers and online journalist-editors, Raja Petra Kamarudin, faces sedition and libel charges after allegedly implicating Mr. Najib and his wife in the killing. Although Mr. Najib has denied ever knowing the victim, taking the unusual step of swearing his innocence in a mosque, he has been unable to stem an avalanche of gossip, speculation and serious analysis, much of it circulated on the Internet.

Mr. Najib also has long been embroiled in allegations of corruption in the purchase of big-ticket weapon systems during his two lengthy terms as defense minister (1990-95, 1999-2008; he retained the defense portfolio after becoming deputy prime minister in 2003), when he drove an aggressive military modernization program. According to Foreign Policy in Focus, a Washington-based think tank, foreign arms manufacturers use well-connected Malaysians as lobbyists, paying them commissions of 10% to 20% to win contracts. Malaysia’s political opposition says much of the money goes to people closely associated with UMNO, including Mr. Najib’s contacts, though the police and anticorruption authorities have not investigated particular cases to the satisfaction of complainants.

For example, the 115 million euros “coordination and support services” payment for Malaysia’s purchase in 2002 of two new Scorpene and one reconditioned Agosta submarine for 1 billion euros was paid to Perimekar Sdn. Bhd. Perimekar at the time was owned by a company called K.S. Ombak Laut Sdn Bhd — later by two other companies as well — which was in turn owned by Abdul Razak Abdullah Baginda, the Najib adviser who stood trial for abetting the murder of the Mongolian woman. The Defense Ministry denied paying a commission and said Peremkear was awarded a genuine contract to support the acquisition of the submarines.

Najib’s Challenge: Clean up UMNO by Barry Wain, Far Eastern Economic Review (http://mt.m2day.org/2008/content/view/19043/84/)

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What a day to have lunch together. On a day when Najib is announcing his staggering RM60 billion stimulus package, Abdullah has lunch with Anwar.

I haven’t seen Abdullah looking so relaxed and cheerful for a long time. Click here to have a peek. (http://shamsuliskandar.wordpress.com/2009/03/10/pm-abdullah-dan-dsai-makan-tengahari-untuk-keamanan/)

According to PKR Youth chief Shamsul Iskandar in his blog, both leaders were invited by Al-Fadhil Tuan Guru Syeikh Mahmud Al-Majzubdi (better known as Tok Ayah) for the Maulud Rasul celebrations at the Madrasah Nurul Iman, Hulu Langat in Selangor.

Anwar says people are reading too much into the encounter. But hey, it’s not everyday the PM and Anwar have lunch together; so tongues are bound to wag.

Anyway, 49 per cent of over 5,000 respondents to the poll on this blog think that Abdullah will remain as PM after March while only 11 per cent of you think Najib will take over.  Let’s wait and see what happens.

Anwar-Abdullah lunch fuels speculation
by Anil Netto (http://anilnetto.com/malaysian-politics/anwar-abdullah-lunch-fuels-speculation/)

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It is roughly two weeks to go before the coming Umno General Assembly. Two weeks is 14 days and 14 days is a long time in politics. Anwar went from becoming the successor to Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad to a sacked Umno member in only three days. And about two weeks later be found himself in jail facing a possible nine criminal charges, seven which were later dropped after they secured a conviction on the first two, which attracted a total jail sentence of 15 years.

Can Najib Tun Razak still make it as Prime Minister at the end of this month? There is no doubt he will become the Umno President, mainly because he will win uncontested and anyone can win in a walkover. But this does not mean he will also become the Prime Minister because there is no law that says the Umno President must also become the Prime Minister.

Tun Razak, Najib’s father, became Prime Minister while Tunku Abdul Rahman stayed on as the Umno President. Dr Mahathir stayed on as Prime Minister after Umno got deregistered and the MCA President, Ling Liong Sik, took over as the Barisan Nasional Chairman. For all intents and purposes, Dr Mahathir was an independent Member of Parliament and a man with no party for that brief period of time until the new Umno called Umno Baru was registered.

The Federal Constitution merely states that the Agong shall appoint the Prime Minister from amongst a Member of the House who, in Tuanku’s opinion, commands the confidence of the majority of the Members of the House. It says nothing about the Prime Minister having to be the President of Umno or the Chairman of Barisan Nasional. For that matter, Ibrahim Ali, the sole independent Member of Parliament, can become Prime Minister if at least 112 of the 222 Members of Parliament support him as Prime Minister — heaven forbid.

And do at least 112 of the 222 Members of Parliament want Najib as the next Prime Minister come end of this month? Okay, maybe SOME of the 65 Umno Members of Parliament from Peninsular Malaysia do. And maybe SOME of the 13 Umno Members of Parliament from Sabah do as well. But that makes only 78 Members of Parliament who want him as Prime Minister — assuming ALL 78 Umno Members of Parliament from Peninsular Malaysia as well as Sabah are unanimous in their support for Najib.

And this is only if we assume that ALL 78 Umno Members of Parliament are unanimous in their support for Najib. From what I have been told, at least 20 are with Abdullah Ahmad Badawi. Amongst these 20 are of course Tengku Razaleigh Hamzah, Khairy Jamaluddin and Abdullah Badawi himself. So there is no way Najib can get the unanimous support of all the 78 Umno Members of Parliament. At best he can get the support of only 58 Umno Members of Parliament. This means Najib is still short of 54 Members of Parliament.

But then, can Najib afford to get the support of only 112 Members of Parliament? What if one were to get a heart attack while playing badminton and dies, or his/her nude photographs or sex video suddenly appeared on the Internet and he/she is forced to resign, or something like which is so customary nowadays. Then Najib would be left with only 111 Members of Parliament against 111 who are against him. This would result in a hung Parliament and Najib would find himself as the Prime Minister with the shortest term in Malaysian history.

No, a figure of 112 is just too close to the bone. Najib would need at least 130 to 140 to be home with a comfortable margin. And that means he cannot depend solely on the Umno Members of Parliament. Umno alone can’t give him the numbers. Umno has only 78 while just 58 are with him. He also needs the 30 non-Umno Members of Parliament from Sarawak and the balance 11 from Sabah plus the 20 from MCA, MIC and Gerakan as well.

Najib is banking on full support from Umno. He can of course get full support from the 2,500 or so Umno delegates who will be attending the Umno General Assembly in about two weeks time. But not all the 2,500 Umno delegates are Members of Parliament. Only 78 are while just 58 are with him. Najib has far from secured the job of Prime Minister of Malaysia whatever the outcome of the Umno General Assembly.

Ali Rustam will win the Umno Deputy Presidency and Najib’s cousin, Hishammuddin, is going to lose the Vice President’s post, while Khir Toyo will become the Youth Leader. Najib is going to automatically become the Umno President only because no one is able to challenge him. But he is going to be isolated and surrounded by those who are not aligned to him as far as the other Umno positions are concerned.

If Najib is assured of becoming the Prime Minister then he can be guaranteed the support of the non-Umno Barisan Nasional Members of Parliament from MCA, MIC, Gerakan, Sabah and Sarawak. He will of course not get the support of the 83 Pakatan Rakyat Members of Parliament. But he has a chance of getting the support of the 61 non-Umno Barisan Nasional Members of Parliament.

This, however, will depend on whether he is assured of becoming Prime Minister. People have a habit of supporting the winner. If you are winner everyone wants to be associated with you and wants to become your friend. No one, however, wants to become associated with a loser. And unless Najib can show he is a winner and not a loser he will not be guaranteed the support of the 61 non-Umno Barisan Nasional Members of Parliament.

Abdullah Badawi has more or less resigned to the fact that by 1 April 2009 he would be sent into retirement. He has even bought an iPhone, which he intends to use to communicate with his grandkids. Does he even know how to use that very complicating iPhone? Not yet, but since he will soon be retiring he has plenty of time to learn how to use it and then spend hours chatting with his grandkids. Hell, he may even set up his own Blog and Facebook since he would not have much work come 1 April 2009.

His wife, Jeanne Danker, is also looking forward to retirement. This simple lady does not enjoy the limelight of ‘First Lady’ and will not miss life in Seri Perdana. She would rather spend her time with her husband and kids. But she abhors the thought of handing this country over to Najib. And Abdullah Badawi’s kids share Jeanne’s view. They are not opposed to Abdullah Badawi retiring. They are opposed to the idea of Najib taking over with the porky Rosmah Mansor gracing the halls of Seri Perdana as the ‘First Lady’ and ‘Queen Elizabeth’ both rolled into one.

They say there is no such thing as hell on earth. But then these people have not imagined life with Rosmah Mansor calling the shots as to how this country should be run. In fact, it would be more like run into the ground with her at the helm. And this is also the view of the Agong.

No doubt Malaysia is a Constitutional Monarchy and the Agong ‘shall act on the advice of the Prime Minister’ — and ‘shall’ has been wrongly interpreted as ‘must’. But there are certain things that the Agong does not act on the advice of the Prime Minister and instead uses his own discretion. And one of these things is with regards to the appointment of the Prime Minister who in Tuanku’s opinion commands the confidence of the majority of the Members of the House.

We have seen, of late, the Rulers exercising their discretion in the appointments of the CEOs. Perak, Selangor, Terengganu and Perlis are examples of this. The Rulers and not Umno decided on who should lead the states. The recent Perak crisis, where the state changed hands from Pakatan Rakyat to Barisan Nasional, is yet another case in point. The Rulers have the power to decide and they have not backed down from exercising this power. And the same applies with regards to the appointment of the Prime Minister.

Anwar Ibrahim’s meeting with Abdullah Badawi yesterday laid the foundation for cooperation between Pakatan Rakyat and some dissenting voices in Barisan Nasional who feel Najib should not be the next Prime Minister. With the 83 Pakatan Rakyat Members of Parliament and another 20 from Umno that makes 103 in all. So all they need is another nine to deny Najib the job of Prime Minister. And MCA has 15, MIC 3, Gerakan 2, Sarawak 30, while the non-Umno Members of Parliament from Sabah come to another 11. Getting just nine from amongst that large group of 61 is not that difficult.

Anwar Ibrahim may never become Prime Minister. But even if he does he is still the lesser of the two evils compared to Najib as far as Abdullah Badawi is concerned. And as far as Anwar is concerned, whether he becomes Prime Minister or not is not the key issue at the moment. What is would be that the Prime Minister must not be Najib. So even if all that Anwar achieves in the end would be for Abdullah Badawi to stay on, that too would be the lesser of the two evils in Anwar’s book.

Abdullah Badawi may have to keep his iPhone in the box awhile longer. He may not have the time to learn how to use it after all. Many are bent on assuring that Najib never takes over as Prime Minister. And if the new Prime Minister is not going to be Anwar, then Abdullah Badawi would have to instead stay on for some time to come. And if this happens then I will personally go to meet Abdullah Badawi to help him with his iPhone. Hell, I might even buy one myself so that I can learn how to use it before I go teach Abdullah Badawi how to use his.

Source: http://mt.m2day.org/2008/content/view/19061/84/

916M: Perak: Solution for Constitutional Crisis (Updated 2)

See, we had expected something like this, as in a reason given for Nizar not having the locus standi to seek audience with DYMM Sultan Azlan Shah. And we can expect the Sultan not to grant audience or not to respond as well (well, if he agrees to grant audience, then great!)

Hence, as we have proposed, the best person to seek audience with the Sultan is Sivakumar, and that is on the basis of the Speaker as directed by the resolutions of the State Assembly, and also in the interest of seeking the Sultan’s adjudication of a solution for the constitutional crisis, not to forget that Sivakumar must ask Nizar and Zambry to come along.

You see, from the Sultan’s point of view, it would be difficult to grant audience to Nizar, especially if Nizar will be seeking the Sultan’s consent to dissolve the Perak Assembly, as if the Sultan were to grant such an audience, it would mean that he now recognizes Nizar as the MB, and furthermore, this will upset the Umnorians (ah, new term) who will likely play up the issue, including belittling the Sultan for his turnaround.

As for Zambry, it would be difficult for him to say no to attending a meeting as convened by the Sultan in response to the Speaker’s request for audience, as non-attendance can be played up as disrespect for the Sultan. And if Zambry decides not to attend, the Sultan can easily make a decision on the basis of the Perak Assembly’s request for dissolution in the interest of solving the impasse, and given especially that the MB whom he had appointed has decided not to attend. The Sultan can then easily fall back on the resolution of the Perak Assembly in recognising Nizar as the MB, and simultaneously deem that Nizar is present, in accordance with the Perak Constitution, to seek dissolution of the Assembly.

From the Speaker’s standpoint, he has to be proactive, acting in the interest of Perakians, as the current constitutional crisis is hurting Perakians, and further that something must be done in order that a solution can be found for the deadlock.

In any event, we note that Umno seems to be trying to further jam up the crisis through the courts.

So, one way is to get Sivakumar to get ready to formally seek audience as an alternative, and in the mean time, Pakatan Perak to appeal against the Judicial Commissioner’s decision, go up all the way, hope that there may be some sensible thinking judge(s) who will overrule the Judicial Commissioner (if not, too bad, we keep finding another solution), and the moment this happens, move quickly to seek audience with the Sultan, and then do the home run!

916 Movement

P/S: If you can help get this suggestion through to Nizar, Sivakumar & Co, please help, and if you can help fine-tune this strategy, by all means do so; we are, after all, doing this for the Rakyat.

Malaysia-Today: Nizar has no right to see Sultan, says Zambry

Posted by admin
Monday, 09 March 2009 09:55

(Bernama) — Datuk Seri Mohammad Nizar Jamaluddin has no right to seek consent from the Perak Sultan, Sultan Azlan Shah, to dissolve the Perak State Assembly, said Menteri Besar Datuk Dr Zambry Abdul Kadir.

“Based on Article 16(6) of the Perak State Constitution, only the Menteri Besar has the right to appear before the Sultan to seek His Royal Highness’ consent to dissolve the state assembly.”

Zambry said this in a one-page statement faxed to Bernama here tonight following Mohammad Nizar’s statement today that he would seek to meet Sultan Azlan Shah to present three resolutions, including calling for the dissolution of the state assembly, passed during an emergency state assembly sitting held by Pakatan Rakyat state assemblymen under a tree in Ipoh last Tuesday.

Mohammad Nizar, who is also Pasir Panjang assemblyman and the former Perak Menteri Besar, had said that he would submit a letter and related documents to the Perak Sultan on Tuesday.

“The statement by Mohammad Nizar was just to confuse the people, to disturb political stability in the state, and to insult and challenge the royal institution and power of the Perak Sultan,” said Zambry in his statement.

Zambry also reminded that on Feb 6 he was sworn in as the rightful 11th Perak Menteri Besar, the appointment of which was consented by the Sultan.

“Mohammad Nizar has to accept the fact that the appointment of a Menteri Besar is the Perak Sultan’s prerogative as provided for in Article 18(2)(a) of the Perak State Constitution.

Source: http://mt.m2day.org/2008/content/view/18985/84/

916M: Perak: Solution for Constitutional Crisis (Updated)

March 4, 2009 · 1 Comment

They control the Police, they control the MACC, and they control the Judiciary.

So, would you believe in the Judicial Commisioner’s judgment?

(In the first place, the Assembly is the highest decision-making body of Perak, and is on top of the Executive Council, which in turn is on top of the Menteri Besar; hence, imagine the Judiciary, ie the courts coming in to interfere with the highest decision-making entity of the State?)

Well, Karpal is right; the Judicial Commissioner had erred. Ignore him.

Mr Speaker, as suggested, you should seek audience with the Sultan, inviting Nizar and Zambry along (please refer to proposition below).

But take it easy though; these ruthless guys will do just about anything to stay in power, so tread carefully, and do not give them any reason to jam or haul you up.

We believe that the dissolution will come, it is a matter of time.

916 Movement

916M: Perak: Solution for Constitutional Crisis

Great move Sivakumar, Nizar & Co!!!

Now that the Perak Assembly has reaffirmed its support for Nizar, and resolved to dissolve the Assembly, the next step now is to seek audience with DYMM Sultan Azlan to convince the Sultan to dissolve the Assembly.

However, it will not be just as easy as Nizar requesting for audience with the Sultan, and presto! audience will be granted.

In order that the desired solution can be achieved, we need to take a step back, and see it from the eyes of the Sultan.

Right now, the Sultan has 2 options, if presented with the request to decide on whether to dissolve the State Assembly or not; one is to say ‘yes’, the other is to say ‘no’.

Let us start with the Sultan being not supportive of dissolution, for whatever reasons he may hold. That being the case, the Pakatan Folks in the Perak Assembly will have to work harder, to steer the situation such that the Perak Pakatan Folks will be in full control of the State, until such time either the Sultan or Zambry & Co gives in. (As we see it, the only way out is via a snap election, and in the worst case scenario, if neither the Sultan nor Zambry & Co budges, then the Perak Assembly will have to assume control of the State until GE13 in circa 2013.)

However, as it stands now, with the constitutional crisis, it is highly likely that the Sultan will favour dissolution, given also the reaction from Perakians which hopefully the Sultan would have seen since his first decline to Nizar’s request for dissolution.

But if Nizar were to seek audience with the Sultan, it would be difficult for the Sultan to agree to the meeting, because in doing so, this will be tantamount to acknolwedging that he was wrong and/or that his appointment of Zambry was also wrong.

To overcome this impasse, our proposal is for Sivakumar, in his capacity as the Speaker of the Perak Assembly, to seek audience with the Sultan with the objective to persuade the Sultan to consider dissolution, on the basis that the Assembly had earlier today resolved to dissolve the Assembly.

Sivakumar also needs to invite Nizar and Zambry along, so that this will present the Sultan with an opportunity to mediate for a solution. With Zambry attending the said meeting, he will, in the eyes fo the Sultan, be attending in the capacity of the Menteri Besar whom the Sultan had appointed, and as such, the Sultan’s agreement to the said meeting can be made on the basis that the ‘duly’ appointed Menteri Besar is present.

We can then leave it to the Sultan, Sivakumar, Nizar and Zambry to decide on the outcome of the said meeting, and hopefully, the Sultan will subsequent to the said meeting give consent to dissolution.

One other difficult bit here is that Zambry may not play ball, or may not even attend the said meeting, in which case, it will then be left to the Sultan to decide on the basis of Sivakumar’s request for the meeting to convey the wishes of the Perak Assembly.

Of course, as noted earlier, if the Sultan does not agree to Sivakumar’s request for audence, then the Pakatan Folks will have to go back to the drawing board.

As it stands now, we firmly believe that the proposed solution above, ie Sivakumar seeks audience inviting Nizar and Zambry along, is the best solution which we can think of; certainly better than Nizar seeking audience with the Sultan, which in greater likelihood, the Sultan will not agree.

In any case, let us hope that the Perak Pakatan Folks will consider this or similar strategy, and let us take it a step at a time.

We now certainly have the upper hand, and let us take it easy.

We will get there.

916 Movement

Source: https://916movement.wordpress.com/2009/03/03/916m-perak-solution-for-constitutional-crisis/

916M: Let Najib become PM!

Aiya, let Najib become PM la …

If not, RAHMAN Theory how to finish???

You see, Tunku Abdul Rahman’s fortune teller or whoever who created this Theory did not say that the Prime Ministers of Malaysia will follow RAHMANTULLAH’s name or something like that. So, he meant, after “N”, finito! So Umno will finish after the “N”.

Hence, if “N” does not happen, we will forever be stuck with Umno, until whoever the “N” comes along.

You see, we can let Najib be the last PM, just for awhile. Let us see if he can become the shortest-serving Prime Minister of Malaysia, just like Zambry will be the shortest-serving Menteri Besar.

And we can put this into Malaysia’s Guinness Book of Records!

Malaysia Boleh!!!

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Haris Ibrahim: For the love of your children, do not let Najib become PM!
March 5, 2009

On the morning that Abdul Razak Baginda was arrested in connection with the Altantuya murder, he received the following sms from Najib :

“I am seeing IGP at 11am today. matter will be solved. be cool.”

The fact of this sms was disclosed by private investigator Balasubramaniam in his first statutory declaration in July last year and has never been denied by either Razak Baginda or Najib.

Meanwhile, though, PI Bala has disappeared.

How did Najib intend to solve the matter?

Najib has never said anything until now.

On the morning of 16th November, 2006, when Razak Baginda was due to be charged in connection with the murder of Altantuya, Najib sent the following sms to lawyer Mohd Shafee Abdullah :

“Pls do not say anything to the press today. i will explain later. RB will have to face a tentative charge but all is not lost”

On 31st October, 2008, Razak Baginda, without being called to enter his defence, was acquitted of the charge, referred to by Dato Seri Najib as “tentative”, of abetting in the murder of Altantuya. At the time, lead prosecutor DPP Tun Majid Tun Hamzah intimated that the acquittal might be appealed, saying, “We will consider appealing the decision. The battle is not over yet”.

14 days later, the same DPP confirmed that the acquittal would not be appealed.

Is this what Najib meant by ‘tentative charge’? By ‘all is not lost’?

Najib has not said anything until now.

On 29th June, 2007, in the course of the Altantuya murder trial, Mongolian national, Burmaa Oyunchimeg, a prosecution witness, testified that she had seen a photograph of the victim, Razak Baginda and a government official. Newspaper reports give the impression that both the prosecution and some of the defence counsels went to great lengths to try and not allow this witness to continue with this line of testimony. However, when she was examined by Mr. Karpal Singh, who finally managed to get leave to ask the witness who the government official was, she replied, “Najib Razak. I remember the name Najib Razak because the name Razak is the same. I thought maybe they were brothers.”

Subsequently, when Najib was asked to comment on this evidence, he declined to do so, on the grounds that it would be inappropriate for him to comment further as any statement he made might be deemed to be on a matter sub-judice, given that the trial was still ongoing.

To this date, Najib has never categorically denied this piece of evidence and no effort has been made by the relevant authorities to investigate this piece of information.

This man now hopes to run our country from as early as 1st April, 2009.

If indeed he does ascend to the office of PM, and proceeds to run our country with an iron fist such like we’ve never seen before, continues to divide the people so that he and his cronies can continue to plunder the nation’s wealth and silence legitimate dissent by despatching the voices of the people to Kamunting, and your children should some day ask you if there was nothing you could do to prevent all this, how will you reply?

I know I will look mine in the eyes and, with a clear conscience, say, ‘I tried’.

Can you do the same?

Well and good if Pak Lah refuses to step down and make way for Najib.

What, though, if Pak Lah does step down once Najib is confirmed as the president of UMNO Baru?

People expect that Najib will make a bee line to the King’s palace on 1st April, 2009 or soonest possible after Pak Lah has stepped down as PM, with a view to inform His Majesty that he commands the confidence of the majority of the members of the Dewan Rakyat and, consequently, he be made PM.

If like me, you do not wish to see Najib as PM of this country, you’ve got under a month to come up with something to stop him.

If you can’t think of anything, why not sign this PETITION.

It beats doing nothing.

Source: http://harismibrahim.wordpress.com/2009/03/05/for-the-love-of-your-children-do-not-let-najib-become-pm/

916M: Perak: Solution for Constitutional Crisis (Updated)

They control the Police, they control the MACC, and they control the Judiciary.

So, would you believe in the Judicial Commisioner’s judgment?

(In the first place, the Assembly is the highest decision-making body of Perak, and is on top of the Executive Council, which in turn is on top of the Menteri Besar; hence, imagine the Judiciary, ie the courts coming in to interfere with the highest decision-making entity of the State?)

Well, Karpal is right; the Judicial Commissioner had erred. Ignore him.

Mr Speaker, as suggested, you should seek audience with the Sultan, inviting Nizar and Zambry along (please refer to proposition below).

But take it easy though; these ruthless guys will do just about anything to stay in power, so tread carefully, and do not give them any reason to jam or haul you up.

We believe that the dissolution will come, it is a matter of time.

916 Movement

916M: Perak: Solution for Constitutional Crisis

Great move Sivakumar, Nizar & Co!!!

Now that the Perak Assembly has reaffirmed its support for Nizar, and resolved to dissolve the Assembly, the next step now is to seek audience with DYMM Sultan Azlan to convince the Sultan to dissolve the Assembly.

However, it will not be just as easy as Nizar requesting for audience with the Sultan, and presto! audience will be granted.

In order that the desired solution can be achieved, we need to take a step back, and see it from the eyes of the Sultan.

Right now, the Sultan has 2 options, if presented with the request to decide on whether to dissolve the State Assembly or not; one is to say ‘yes’, the other is to say ‘no’.

Let us start with the Sultan being not supportive of dissolution, for whatever reasons he may hold. That being the case, the Pakatan Folks in the Perak Assembly will have to work harder, to steer the situation such that the Perak Pakatan Folks will be in full control of the State, until such time either the Sultan or Zambry & Co gives in. (As we see it, the only way out is via a snap election, and in the worst case scenario, if neither the Sultan nor Zambry & Co budges, then the Perak Assembly will have to assume control of the State until GE13 in circa 2013.)

However, as it stands now, with the constitutional crisis, it is highly likely that the Sultan will favour dissolution, given also the reaction from Perakians which hopefully the Sultan would have seen since his first decline to Nizar’s request for dissolution.

But if Nizar were to seek audience with the Sultan, it would be difficult for the Sultan to agree to the meeting, because in doing so, this will be tantamount to acknolwedging that he was wrong and/or that his appointment of Zambry was also wrong.

To overcome this impasse, our proposal is for Sivakumar, in his capacity as the Speaker of the Perak Assembly, to seek audience with the Sultan with the objective to persuade the Sultan to consider dissolution, on the basis that the Assembly had earlier today resolved to dissolve the Assembly.

Sivakumar also needs to invite Nizar and Zambry along, so that this will present the Sultan with an opportunity to mediate for a solution. With Zambry attending the said meeting, he will, in the eyes fo the Sultan, be attending in the capacity of the Menteri Besar whom the Sultan had appointed, and as such, the Sultan’s agreement to the said meeting can be made on the basis that the ‘duly’ appointed Menteri Besar is present.

We can then leave it to the Sultan, Sivakumar, Nizar and Zambry to decide on the outcome of the said meeting, and hopefully, the Sultan will subsequent to the said meeting give consent to dissolution.

One other difficult bit here is that Zambry may not play ball, or may not even attend the said meeting, in which case, it will then be left to the Sultan to decide on the basis of Sivakumar’s request for the meeting to convey the wishes of the Perak Assembly.

Of course, as noted earlier, if the Sultan does not agree to Sivakumar’s request for audence, then the Pakatan Folks will have to go back to the drawing board.

As it stands now, we firmly believe that the proposed solution above, ie Sivakumar seeks audience inviting Nizar and Zambry along, is the best solution which we can think of; certainly better than Nizar seeking audience with the Sultan, which in greater likelihood, the Sultan will not agree.

In any case, let us hope that the Perak Pakatan Folks will consider this or similar strategy, and let us take it a step at a time.

We now certainly have the upper hand, and let us take it easy.

We will get there.

916 Movement

Source: https://916movement.wordpress.com/2009/03/03/916m-perak-solution-for-constitutional-crisis/

The Malaysian Insider: Karpal: Perak State Assembly can ignore ‘null and void’ court order

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Wednesday, 04 March 2009 18:16

By Debra Chong, The Malaysian Insider

The Perak state legislative assembly can ignore the Ipoh High Court order declaring its sitting under a tree yesterday as “illegal”, said DAP chairman Karpal Singh.

Speaking to reporters at the Parliament lobby today, he said that Judicial Commissioner Ridwan Ibrahim had acted beyond his powers and in contempt of the state assembly in that decision.

He maintains the Perak assembly had met lawfully, if unconventionally, away from the gazetted venue of the State Secretariat complex.

Because of that, the High Court’s order is “null and void”, Karpal insisted.

He added there was no need for the Assembly Speaker, V. Sivakumar, or the Pakatan Rakyat assemblymen to challenge the order of the judge.

“His order has no significance. It is null and void. It is non-existent,” said Karpal, who is also the MP for Bukit Gelugor.

Instead, Speaker Sivakumar can order Ridwan to be brought before the assembly and cite him for contempt of the assembly.

Karpal also noted that the Judicial Commissioner had made an error in dismissing the five independent lawyers appointed by Sivakumar to represent him in the High Court and instead, compelled the latter to seek the services of the State Legal Advisor.

“It’s a conflict of interest,” he stressed, and pointed out the State Legal Advisor, Datuk Ahmad Kamal Md Shahid, has persistently claimed to be representing Datuk Dr Zambry Abdul Kadir in a case related to the dispute over who is the lawful menteri besar at the KL High Court.

If the judge insists that Sivakumar be represented by Ahmad Kamal because the suit was taken against him in his official capacity, then Ahmad Kamal should immediately disqualify himself from representing Zambry.

Karpal noted in such a case where the state assemblymen are suing each other, they each have the right to get independent lawyers to represent them.

He added that deputy state legal advisor, Zulkarnain Hassan, should not have represented Sivakumar in closed chambers yesterday.

“Sivakumar is a trained lawyer. He could have represented himself,” he highlighted, and added, “We must let natural justice proceed.”

“By right, the judge should have adjourned the hearing,” Karpal opined.

Source: http://mt.m2day.org/2008/content/view/18826/84/

916M: Perak: Solution for Constitutional Crisis

Great move Sivakumar, Nizar & Co!!!

Now that the Perak Assembly has reaffirmed its support for Nizar, and resolved to dissolve the Assembly, the next step now is to seek audience with DYMM Sultan Azlan to convince the Sultan to dissolve the Assembly.

However, it will not be just as easy as Nizar requesting for audience with the Sultan, and presto! audience will be granted.

In order that the desired solution can be achieved, we need to take a step back, and see it from the eyes of the Sultan.

Right now, the Sultan has 2 options, if presented with the request to decide on whether to dissolve the State Assembly or not; one is to say ‘yes’, the other is to say ‘no’.

Let us start with the Sultan being not supportive of dissolution, for whatever reasons he may hold. That being the case, the Pakatan Folks in the Perak Assembly will have to work harder, to steer the situation such that the Perak Pakatan Folks will be in full control of the State, until such time either the Sultan or Zambry & Co gives in. (As we see it, the only way out is via a snap election, and in the worst case scenario, if neither the Sultan nor Zambry & Co budges, then the Perak Assembly will have to assume control of the State until GE13 in circa 2013.)

However, as it stands now, with the constitutional crisis, it is highly likely that the Sultan will favour dissolution, given also the reaction from Perakians which hopefully the Sultan would have seen since his first decline to Nizar’s request for dissolution.

But if Nizar were to seek audience with the Sultan, it would be difficult for the Sultan to agree to the meeting, because in doing so, this will be tantamount to acknolwedging that he was wrong and/or that his appointment of Zambry was also wrong.

To overcome this impasse, our proposal is for Sivakumar, in his capacity as the Speaker of the Perak Assembly, to seek audience with the Sultan with the objective to persuade the Sultan to consider dissolution, on the basis that the Assembly had earlier today resolved to dissolve the Assembly.

Sivakumar also needs to invite Nizar and Zambry along, so that this will present the Sultan with an opportunity to mediate for a solution. With Zambry attending the said meeting, he will, in the eyes fo the Sultan, be attending in the capacity of the Menteri Besar whom the Sultan had appointed, and as such, the Sultan’s agreement to the said meeting can be made on the basis that the ‘duly’ appointed Menteri Besar is present.

We can then leave it to the Sultan, Sivakumar, Nizar and Zambry to decide on the outcome of the said meeting, and hopefully, the Sultan will subsequent to the said meeting give consent to dissolution.

One other difficult bit here is that Zambry may not play ball, or may not even attend the said meeting, in which case, it will then be left to the Sultan to decide on the basis of Sivakumar’s request for the meeting to convey the wishes of the Perak Assembly.

Of course, as noted earlier, if the Sultan does not agree to Sivakumar’s request for audence, then the Pakatan Folks will have to go back to the drawing board.

As it stands now, we firmly believe that the proposed solution above, ie Sivakumar seeks audience inviting Nizar and Zambry along, is the best solution which we can think of; certainly better than Nizar seeking audience with the Sultan, which in greater likelihood, the Sultan will not agree.

In any case, let us hope that the Perak Pakatan Folks will consider this or similar strategy, and let us take it a step at a time.

We now certainly have the upper hand, and let us take it easy.

We will get there.

916 Movement

P/S: Anil, great technique!

MalaysiaKini: Ball now in Perak Sultan’s court

“This is a historic and meaning sitting. History has been made for the people of Perak and all those who loves democracy.”

That is the response of Pakatan Rakyat leader Mohd Nizar Jamaluddin after the emergency sitting of the Perak legislative assembly was held today.

The meeting, which needed a quorum of 16, was convened under a tree outside the state secretariat complex in Ipoh where the state assembly is located.

The 28 Pakatan state representatives were earlier barred from entering the complex.

Pakatan has won a moral victory of sorts by passing a vote of confidence for Mohd Nizar as the legitimate menteri besar as well as to dissolve the assembly to pave the way for fresh elections, but the outcome of the sitting will not be immediately known.

It is for certain that Mohd Nizar will try to seek an audience with Perak Sultan Azlan Shah as soon as possible to convey the assembly’s resolutions.

All eyes are now on the sultan’s response to this latest development and whether Barisan Nasional, which took power in the state early last month under controversial circumstances, will try to invalidate the decisions made during the sitting.

At a press conference later, Mohd Nizar appeared in a jovial mood flanked by his state representatives and several Pakatan MPs from other states.

“We have gotten the consensus for us to recommend to the sultan that the state assembly be dissolved. It there is no dissolution, the constitutional crisis (in Perak) will go on and political stability would be affected,” said Mohd Nizar.

“So we are crying from the bottom of our hearts for the people of Perak to urge the sultan to listen to the voices of the people and dissolve the state assembly. If not, the crisis would go on and on. We do not want that.”

Assembly meeting ‘lawful’

Mohd Nizar stressed that the sitting was lawful because assembly speaker V Sivakumar had issued a notice to all state representatives, except those who are suspended, to attend the assembly.

However, because the police and an unknown group of men had prevented the state reps from entering the state assembly today, the sitting was held under a large raintree in a carpark just a stone’s throw from the state assembly.

The meeting chaired by Sivakumar, who donned his speaker’s ceremonial robe. None of the BN state assemblypersons however turned up for the meeting.

Mohd Nizar added that under the instruction of the sultan, any sitting of the state assembly must be held within the assembly, but since the building had been sealed off, alternative arrangements had to be made.

“We were prevented from entering the building, so out of the doctrine of necessity, we held the sitting as close as possible, so the location underneath the raintree was best,” he said.

However, he stressed that the sitting followed all procedures and was held in accordance to the assembly standing orders and state constitution.

Following the passing of the resolutions this morning, Mohd Nizar said that his government would still have to do some paper work before he can seek an audience with the sultan.

“After we finish preparing the documents, I will seek for an audience with the sultan to present him with the resolutions that were passed earlier as soon as possible,” he said.

Should the sultan not recognise the legitimacy of the sitting and not grant consent for the dissolution of the state assembly, Mohd Nizar said Pakatan would do whatever necessary within the confines of the law.

malaysiakini
03/03/09

Anilnetto.com: LIVE from Perak: Will democracy survive?

08:05
Good morning! Perak has been very much in our thoughts these days as democracy hangs in the balance. Let’s say a prayer that justice, wisdom, and good sense will prevail today.
08:10
I am actually in Penang now, waiting for the first reports from my contact at the scene in Ipoh.
08:12
[Comment From mahyuddin mahzan]
May God protect the peace and stability in Perak especially Ipoh. May the people of Ipoh stand up for their rites. This is a sad day indeed and i pay for the better.
08:13
If you don’t see your comments appearing here, please post in the usual way at the end of the entry. Unfortunately, I don’t think I will be able to post all your comments in here.
08:14

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08:15
This is another view of the state government building, which also houses the state assembly, where some of the drama is likely to occur.
08:17
[Comment From s.james]
for justice and fairness in this David and Goliath epic, Let us pause for a moment,pray to the almighty God in our own diversified way for a peaceful solution to the standoff
08:17
[Comment From sitiawan]
Hope everything will be alright. I’m hoping the police will do their job professionally this time.
08:22
[Comment From doovad]
i’m atheist. i do pray. for the inner souls of all to be heard and intra-heard today. from royalties to the man-in-the-street. pause. listen. namaste. we are one. if we have all prayed in our own ways of wiping out corruption and evil, we all will have to live through the detoxification process. the symptoms have surfaced over these years. the remedy can be bitter. but always for the better.
08:24
My contact is heading to the High Court, which will hear Zambry’s suits at 9.00am.
08:28
Zambry has filed two suits. The first is over Speaker Sivakumar’s use of undated letters to declare seats vacant. The second is over the suspensions of Zambry and his six exco members.
08:28
[Comment From Elijah Rajendran]
Let us pray for the sultan and all those in authority that we may live in peace. Also recognize that is God is greater than all men. No matter what happens today, let the ultimate victory be for true democracy!
08:29
Blogger delCapo reports that the state government building is crawling with media people and more than 150 police personnel are at the scene.
08:33
Road blocks are up and no traffic is allowed near the state government building.
08:40

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08:41
This is the scene at the state government building this morning. Photo courtesy of blogger delCapo at the scene.
08:46
[Comment From delCapo]
i’m not alone…. we r a team of 3
08:51
[Comment From ohbulang]
dear anil & delCapo good jobs
08:51
[Comment From Eva]
Keep safe reporters. And thank you for bringing the news to those of us who cannot be there.
08:52
Blogger delCapo reports that the crowd is building up at the scene – but more cops than rakyat!
08:54
Another contact on the road in Ipoh reports heavy traffic in many places.
08:59
Jalan Istana, where the state government building is located, has been closed to traffic.
09:02
My contact is now in the High Court. The Speaker is being represented by five lawyers. The lead counsel is the good Tommy Thomas and he is being assisted by Chan Kok Keong, Augustine Anthony, Phillip Koh Tong Ngee and a fifth lawyer.
09:07
[Comment From Victor]
The use of the phrase ‘my contact’ makes it sound so mysterious and dramatic 🙂
09:09
Blogger delCapo, who is blogging live at delcapo.wordpress.com, reports that an FRU truck is now blocking one of the main entrances to the Dewan building area.
09:11
Another contact outside the state government building reports a crowd of about 800 in the area. That’s close to the 1,000, which delCapo had estimated earlier.
09:14
[Comment From Barathi Tamil]
Thanks to AnilNetto thanks for your up to date upate,,,,we are following up Perak situation from your update….BN still never learn from their lesson…Hope Speaker Sivakumar is Okay…Salute to Him ,from all of us here in KL
09:14
[Comment From sunny]
Wow all the top gun lawyers are there for the showdown,, great man
09:14
[Comment From abd karim bin shariff]
thanks for keeping update imformation..we pray to ALLAH pakatan heroes will win
09:17
The contact has revised the estimate of the crowd to over 1,000. People are expecting the PR Aduns to show up for the assembly sitting at 10.00am.   They Aduns are believed to be holed up at a hotel somewhere.
09:19
[Comment From Singam]
As a matter of form, the ADUNs should show up at the State Secretariat to verify the unavailability before adjourning elsewhere.
09:21

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09:22
An FRU truck blocks the entrance to the state government building. Photo courtesy of blogger delCapo at delcapo.wordpress.com
09:25
The suit at the High Court is being filed by the BN state government team. My contact there says the BN is being represented by lawyers Dato Hasfarizam b Harun, Faizul Hilmi, Ahmad Zamri and Badrul Hishah b Abdul Wahab.
09:26
[Comment From joric]
Is it wise for the PR Aduns to go to the State Secretariat? Zambry has already warned that it is a treat to national security.
09:26
[Comment From David]
I don’t think so the PR Aduns will be not admitted to the State Secretariat – that will be the excuse to meet in a coffee shop and making history.
09:28
[Comment From Singam]
Malaysiakini reports that the ADUNs are on their way to the State Secretariat.
09:31
A little quarrel between an Umno supporter and a PR supporter near the state government building, says my contact there. Shouts of ‘kurang ajar‘ can be heard – but more media people around than anyone else.
09:33
Cool down, people…
09:34
[Comment From Soba]
Have not seen so many police personals before in Ipoh. I wonder where and waht they are doing on other days when crime is rampant…
09:34
[Comment From Delly]
the star reports Nizar says they will convene the assembly in a coffeeshop if need be!
09:37
The PR Aduns are now at the scene.
09:38
DAP’s Kula is accompanied by the whole team of PR Aduns and they are now about 60 metres from the entrance to the building. They have been mobbed by reporters.
09:38
[Comment From Guest]
let it be! make it happen! it will be a history!
09:38
[Comment From cicitalangtedong]
we the patient in IJN support MB Nizar till our beat of our heart…
09:38
[Comment From Ramazi]
Well done YB Dato Nizar and Sivakumar, conduct a historic State Assembly at a warung to let the rakyat see for themselves
09:39
[Comment From n]
it will be most unique assembly in history
09:39
[Comment From aduka]
go go,
09:40
Blogger delCapo reports that the crowd has been shouting,”Hidup rakyat! Hidup rakyat!”
09:46
Kula’s political secretary, Sugu, tells me that they PR Aduns had arrived from the Regency Hotel at the state secretary building at about 9.30am. He said the PR Aduns were met by a group of about 200 Umno Youth supporters who shouted unpleasant things at them.
09:47
The police have ordered the crowd to disperse or else…. the water cannons?
09:49
The police have used their loud hailer to call the Speaker to enter the building – but only the Speaker alone.
09:50
But the Speaker is not entering alone. Why should he enter alone? The Speaker has returned to his car outside and is waiting for the clock to run down to 10.00am.
09:52
The five minutes is up for the crowd to disperse, and the water cannon truck has moved to face the crowd. But my contact reports that no one appears to be budging.
09:52
[Comment From khozirah]
Ya Allah berkatilah usaha kami! Help the ADUNs make it through this!
09:53
[Comment From Nicholas]
Are we going to witness water cannon being shot at the Speaker and his team of rakyat appointed assemblymen?
09:53
[Comment From Tee]
My friend at scene call me that Nizar and team are barred from entering…
09:54
[Comment From aji]
para YBs sila ambil & bentang tikar di tengah jalan dan ada kan sidang segera….bangunan hanya lambang, YBs adalah teras nye
09:55
[Comment From Ipoh White Man]
I see the word ‘sanctity’ being used. I think it should be Parliamentary ‘sovereignty’. Malaysians would do well to read the Wikipedia entry for Parliamentary sovereignty, particularly ‘Under parliamentary sovereignty, a legislative body has absolute sovereignty, meaning it is supreme to all other government institutions (including any executive or judicial bodies as they may exist)’.
09:57
All the PR Aduns are now moving to the DAP office opposite the entrance to the state government building, reports my contact. The DAP’s Ngeh says they are going to have a press conference there.
09:58
[Comment From Dalbinder Singh]
the star reports that the circulars to close the state building are being ‘collected back’
10:00
[Comment From Singam]
While the Press Conference can be at the DAP office, the State Assembly should NOT be convened there to avoid appearance of bias.
10:00
[Comment From Jily]
My tears are rolling down, it is indeed a very sad day and there are going to be many, many, many more sad days in Malaysia!
10:01
Meanwhile, over in the High Court, my contact reports that the Judge hearing the suits is Ridwan Ibrahim.
10:04
Two lawyers from each side have been inside the Judge’s chambers for the last 20 minutes.
10:07
The Speaker and the PR Aduns are all at one corner outside the state government building. MB Nizar is inside the car. The Speaker seems about to make an announcement as to what they are going to do next, reports another contact at the scene.
10:08
[Comment From Singam]
Zambry’s two applications will be heard before Judicial Commissioner Ridwan Ibrahim at High Court 4.
10:10
[Comment From ipohmali]
what? another change of judge in last minute? High Court (Special Powers and Appellate) Court judge Lau Bee Lan was appointed to hear it only yesterday!
10:10
[Comment From Ramazi]
why not conduct the assembly along the banks of the river near the secretariat building, rakyat can watch from both sides of the river. even the water canon trucks will have difficulty to engage their chemical laced water. After the assembly wash yourself in the river.Create history my dedicated YBs of Perak
10:11
[Comment From lieyns]
Fyi, Judial Commissioner Ridwan Ibrahim should the judge hearing the habeas corpus of Hindraf Leader last time but suddenly changed to Justice Muhammead Ideres Muhammad Rapee.
10:16
The Speaker has just announced that he will be holding the sitting of the State Assembly about 50 metres from the entrance in an open space near a couple of trees.
10:17
They are starting the proceedings with a prayer as a crowd of about 500-600 look on.
10:18
[Comment From Mat]
I asyik bdebar je, susah nak buat kerja. Hanya tunggu berita terkini. Apapun kita sama samalah berdoa kepada Allah swt supaya memberi jalan kepada PR utk mencapai kemenangan. Ya Allah, tunjuklah jalan penyelesaian kepada kami “PR” sebagaimana Engkau selamatkan Musa ketika terdesak dikejar Fir’aun di laut Merah. Amin!!
10:21
They are having the Dewan assembly sitting under a tree! They are meeting right next to my contact’s car.   It’s all very formal and they are addressing the Speaker as Yang DiPertua etc.
10:21
[Comment From BH Leow]
Malaysian Insider reported that earlier there was a scuffle at 9.40am between five men and Pakatan Rakyat assemblymen trying to enter the state secretariat compound. The five men claim to be independent and are trying to push Datuk Seri Nizar Jamaluddin and Pakatan Rakyat assemblymen away from the entrance.
10:23
Another contact estimates that about a 1,000 people are watching the open-air proceedings. It’s a historic sitting of the Dewan. Back to the people.
10:24
[Comment From john.wu07]
Lets not worry as God does what man can’t. However man must do what they can for God to act. So PK, do what is necessary without worry
10:24
[Comment From rakyat@work]
History in the making!
10:24
[Comment From Singh_Australia!]
HALELLUYAH!
10:24
[Comment From MALAYSIAN]
under a tree. so be it.
10:25
[Comment From aduka]
10.15am Sidang tergempar DUN diadakan di tempat letak kenderaan diadakan juga di depan Bangunan Perak Darul Ridzuan setelah bangunan tersebut – yang menempatkan dewan itu – ditutup. Ia diadakan di bawah sepohon pokok, dan semua 27 wakil rakyat Pakatan termasuk menteri besar mereka hadir dengan dipengerusikan oleh Speaker yang berpakaian rasmi. Tiada kerusi untuk semua 28 ahli DUN tersebut. Sidang tergempar DUN dibuka dengan bacaan doa. 10.01am Nizar dan para wakil rakyat Pakatan – yang asalnya berdegil ingin meneruskan sidang tergempar seperti dirancang Jumaat lepas – meninggalkan pintu masuk Bangunan Perak Darul Ridzuan. Mereka bergerak ke tempat letak kereta, kira-kira 50 meter dari pintu masuk tersebut, untuk mesyuarat ringkas. Speaker DUN V Sivakumar turut kelihatan. Kumpulan kira-kira 200 penyokong Pakatan tidak berganjak.
10:26
[Comment From Ray]
Yeah! The assembly is having a historic sitting standing up. This should make headlines around the world.
10:26
[Comment From melaka]
melaka was also found under a tree right….. is just the right time to make history again… UNDER a tree
10:27
[Comment From Bob K]
The Assembly is not merely a building, it is the actual assembly of the people’s representatives.
10:27
[Comment From Afiq Z]
Back to basics. openness, transparent, witness democracy!
10:27
[Comment From Tension]
we have to preserve the tree for future generation to remember!!
10:27
[Comment From Peter-Ji]
Buddha received his enlightment beneath the Bodhi tree. Maybe DUN Perak historic emergency assembly is under the Ipoh tree…
10:30
[Comment From ipohmali]
Update: High Court (Special Powers and Appellate) Court judge Lau Bee Lan is to hear Nizar vs Zambry, and not Zambry vs Nizar. The hearing is today
10:30
[Comment From steve]
my white friends used to ask me if malaysians still live on trees. now i can tell them our democracy lives under the tree.
10:30
[Comment From aduka]
0.23am Usul pertama yang dibentangkan sebentar tadi – menyatakan undi percaya kepada menteri besar Pakatan Rakyat, Datuk Seri Mohamad Nizar Jamaluddin – diluluskan dengan sebulat suara. 10.18am Speaker DUN memulakan bicara dengan meminta semua yang memerhatikan perjalanan sidang itu diam sebagai tanda hormat. 10.15am Sidang tergempar DUN diadakan di tempat letak kenderaan diadakan juga di depan Bangunan Perak Darul Ridzuan setelah bangunan tersebut – yang menempatkan dewan itu – ditutup.
10:31
[Comment From rakyat]
Mat God/Allah/Buddha them all
10:31
[Comment From BH Leow]
I can feel the unification of different races and religions here. After all, we are all human with same values in life. This is the Malaysia, we want.
10:31

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10:32
The scene outside the state government building earlier. Photo courtesy of blogger delCapo.
10:32
[Comment From john.wu07]
Jesus’ ministry was not in a church or a house or a building. Its the gathering of the people that matters, not the building. We are witnessing a historical event and this is a story that we shall tell our children of how democracy lives and how Malaysia was won!!!
10:32
[Comment From Guest]
Let’s name the fortunate tree as ” Pokok Demokrasi ” atau ” Pokok Keadilan ”
10:32
[Comment From sayang kinabalu]
let’s make the “location” as a National Democracy Heritage
10:33
[Comment From zul]
nampaknya semua bangsa mengharapkan pr kembali bekerja untuk mereka…terharunya…elakkan api perkauman,mari kita bersatu membentuk negara yang aman …semoga semuanya berjalan lancar
10:33
[Comment From jiman]
10.25am Usul kedua – membubarkan DUN – diluluskan dengan sebulat suara. 10.23am Usul pertama yang dibentangkan sebentar tadi – menyatakan undi percaya kepada menteri besar Pakatan Rakyat, Datuk Seri Mohamad Nizar Jamaluddin – diluluskan dengan sebulat suara.
10:36
The resolutions expressing support for the MB and calling for the dissolution of the assembly have been passed. Everyone is now adjourning to the DAP office.
10:37
A man was scene carrying a placard, which read “The world is watching”.
10:38
[Comment From Khoo]
I was so touched! Democracy reborned under a tree in Perak!!! Prode to be a Malaysian!
10:38
[Comment From rakyat@work]
Hooray, The state assembly has passed a vote of confidence in Datuk Seri Nizar Jamaluddin as mentri besar of Perak!
10:39
[Comment From EDDY K]
When humble people shout to the Lord, He will listen and come to their rescue. Let’s continue to fear the Lord, and ask for His mercy to deliver us from the bondage of hate.
10:39
[Comment From From Sabah]
IMHO, the assembly is the easy part…. now the MB will still need to get HRH’s consent to dissolve the assembly and path way for a new state election…
10:39
[Comment From Rose]
Tree signifies the Law. The Law is Peace among all Nations The branches of this Great Tree signify shelter, giving each individual strength and the spirit to fight for our rights. Malaysians join me in seeing democracy at last, bravo Ipoh it starts with you
10:41
[Comment From BH Leow]
It seems yesterday, the order to lock the dewan was retrieved according to Star today. IPOH: The State Secretary’s office issued circulars last evening directing staff members to cancel all appointments in the premises today because the entrances to the building would be shut. However, the circulars were retrieved about an hour after they were pasted on the doors of several offices. Later when asked if the directives had been withdrawn, State Secretary Datuk Dr Abdul Rahman Hashim said: “My officer informed me that they had been collected back. I cannot comment further on that.”
10:41
[Comment From chinhuatw]
Ipoh will be remembered in the history of And Sivakumar is the William Lenthall of our time.
10:42
[Comment From lembu susu]
fr malaysiainsiderMeanwhile, Judicial Commissioner Ridwan Ibrahim has ruled that five lwayers, including constitutional expert Tommy Thomas, have no locus standi to represent the Perak Speaker in court. He says the Speaker must be represented by the state legal advisor because he is part of the state government
10:44
[Comment From Krishna]
Did anyone foresee that battleground for democracy will be Ipoh. The Sennivasagam brothers will be cheering from wherever they are.
10:44
[Comment From Guest]
I’ll teach my kids to sing this nursery to commemorate this day:in full robes and pageantry, he held the state assembly in a car park, under a tree
10:46
[Comment From cicitalangtedong]
Let’s one for all and all for one ,….bukan untuk negeri Perak saja tapi untuk seluruh rakyat Malaysia dan untuk kesejahteraan seluruh rakyat yang dahagakan keadilan dan kemerdekaan sebenar benarnya.
10:46
[Comment From Democracy Voter from Sgor]
Satu bab terbaru dalam ” Hari Ini Dalam Sejarah, 3 Mac 09 di Ipoh Perak “. untuk dikenangi dan diingati buat selama-lamanya di tanahair kita yang kita cintai, bermula hari ini
10:47
delCapo reports that Nizar has also gone upstairs at the DAP office nearby for a press conference. The PKR Youth leadership is also present.
10:48
[Comment From Summer]
if you see the date translated in chinese 3-3-09 – Sang Sang Weng Kau – meaning alive forever more
10:48
[Comment From Pokok Keadilan Rakyat]
Demokrasi bawah pokok , dari rakyat , untuk rakyat , demi rakyat
10:50
The crowd in the area has dispersed.
10:51
“Proud to be part of this Perak State Assembly sitting under the tree!” reports my contact.
10:51
[Comment From alimustakim]
kalau hollywood buat filem pasal perak confirm box office. Denzel Washington jd siva.
10:52
About 1,000 people had witnessed the proceedings.
10:53
[Comment From bluesailor]
My late grandmother’s house is just 100m from the tree of freedom. I hope she loves to see this.
10:54
[Comment From Rohan]
With God all things are possible.The righteous shall flourish like a palm tree. Let us continue to pray that the rakyat’s desire and His will be done.
10:54
[Comment From Daniel]
Even though I am one of the BN component party member, I disagree to the action of the BN. BN should agree to dissolve the state assembly and let the perak people elect their own govt. Court has no right and power to decide for the people of Perak. The best solution is to dissolve the state assembly and let the people of Perak to elect their own govt. BN, you are too much. You have created hatred among the rakyat. Please stop it. The speaker, YB Siva is 100% right to call for the assembly sitting. Thank you, YB Siva.
10:58
“It was really a fantastic experience,” says my other contact. It was an open space with a couple of huge high shady trees – a large mango tree and the other one appears to be angsana tree, about 200 metres away from the entrance to state secretariat building.
10:59
The bodyguards just formed a ring around the open-air assembly and the people were encircled around Aduns, who were standing in front of the Speaker, who was also standing in his full regalia, the songkok, the black and yellow suit.
11:01
A moment of humour occurred when the Speaker asked the Aduns, “Setuju?”

Instead, of just the Aduns responding, the whole crowd shouted “Setuju!”

The Aduns had to explain to the crowd that the Setuju response was only for the Aduns.

Someone in the crowd muttered to my contact, “We are also part of this assembly. We have a right to express our confidence in the MB.”

11:03
The press conference at the DAP is still going on. A crowd of about a couple of hundred people are waiting downstairs to find out about latest developments.
11:08

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11:08
Another picture courtesy of blogger delCapo.
11:09
At the High Court, the judge has said that PR lawyers have no locus standi.
11:10
[Comment From unsaid]
wad an eerie resemblance when the Buddha himself attained enlightenment under a tree.. for Sivakumar to call for the assembly sitting under a tree.. im honestly moved to tears.. With leaders of such.. Perak has hope.. Malaysia has hope…
11:11
[Comment From Amjoem]
This is historic, taking us back to the time of Jesus Christ. Jesus usually preached under the trees. Christianity developed by Jesus, nearly 2000 years ago, usually from under the trees
11:11
[Comment From Godspeak]
This event is a sign to remind us where FREEDOM begin… same with all prophets and peace leaders like Ghandi or even religious teachers they all began under a tree… God Bless All Humans
11:11
[Comment From halee]
even i m bn member but i condemm the umno way to power,saya malu betui,resign fr bn
11:11
[Comment From Dr. Mahathir]
10.46am: Nizar at the press conference: “We held sitting under a tree based on the doctrine of necessity because we were prevented from entering the assembly but we had to fulfil our duties based on the notice issued by the speaker”.
11:12
[Comment From Dr. Mahathir]
10.49am: Nizar says that he will try to get an audience with the Sultan of Perak to inform him the decision of the House. He insisted that the sitting was held in accordance with the rules and regulations.
11:12
[Comment From umno kedah]
Now i can see clearly what is happening here in Perak. Eventhough i am an UMNO supporter, in this situation i am standing together on the other side with PR, my best regards
11:12
[Comment From Abdullah]
my dad is from umno. but yesterday he told me that he feels disgraced by his party’s shameful moves to destroy democracy…
11:13
[Comment From Eva]
That brought tears to my eyes 🙂 The people have spoken. SETUJU!
11:13
[Comment From orang kampong]
like in the time of Julius Caesar, what i learnt in history during my schooltime …if i’mnot mistaken…they’ll do the assembly in open space like an amphitheater isn’t it…like in the movies…
11:14
[Comment From melayupenang]
what happened to our malay? hilangkah kepercayaan kepada Tuhan, kesetiaan kepada Raja, kesopanan dan kesusilaan. apa sudah jadi? DAP, KEADILAN dah jadi raja ke?
11:15
[Comment From Halim Din]
seorang wanita sedang menitiskan airmata di bawah Pohon Demokrasi….
11:15
[Comment From Singam]
The Village Pancayat (court) in India usually meets under a tree.
11:19
[Comment From Ali]
MIT and Harvard have commencement (US language) (convocation, Malaysian) in open space. Front of the dome (MIT). Under trees (Harvard)
11:19
[Comment From orang kampong]
meleleh ayor mata teman..bila terbaca ayat: someone in the crowdmuttered to your contact, “We are also part of this assembly .We have right to express our confidence in the MB. Thank you…awak mewakili kami yang tidak dapat bersama anda semua …kami mendoakan semoga beroleh kejayaan bagi segala susah payah yang saudara saudara hadapi sewaktu berkumpul di IPOH.. semangat persaudaraan tanpa mengira kaum dan ugama ….what a lovely day…
11:22
[Comment From Perak ordinary]
I followed the political event in Perak lately, and with tears flowing freely down my cheek, tears of joy , joy of knowing these group of people like speaker Siva, MB Nizar never giving up the struggles for demoracry…. these are people should run the country… I rejoice together with them for the rebirth of Perak demoracry under the tree, will be remembered in history for a long time. Syabas to those who are there this morning to witness the historic event in Perak.
11:26
I am sorry I am unable to publish all your comments. This site is getting like 15 comments a minute! So if you find your comment missing, please post it in the usual way at the end of this post.
11:28
Your response has been amazing. I never expected so many people from all over to be so intense about preserving and upholding democracy in Perak. This augurs well for the future of democracy in Malaysia. Democracy is far from dead. It is alive in our hearts and no one can rob that from us.
11:28
[Comment From kalai]
this is like fighting for our independence…really feel fantastic.history has been created..we are truly malaysians now..long live PR…!
11:29
I can read all your comments, thanks so much for the encouraging words. You make it all worthwhile.
11:30
[Comment From fatimah]
I am posting from Chicago and I am overwhelm with what happen in Perak. Please continue this blog to keep me inform!
11:30
[Comment From adrianj]
The LORD has eyes for the just, and ears for their cry. The LORD confronts the evildoers, to destroy remembrance of them from the earth. R. From all their distress God rescues the just. When the just cry out, the LORD hears them, and from all their distress he rescues them. The LORD is close to the brokenhearted; and those who are crushed in spirit he saves. R. From all their distress God rescues the just.
11:32
Ok folks, you wanted pictures of the assembly under the tree, I will try and post one.
11:33
[Comment From sc]
anil, all the unemployed housewives are watching and praying here in KL! Forget about unmade beds and unprepared lunches: this is more important. Thank you so much for doing this to keep us in the picture and in the know. It’s like being there. Yeah, the world is watching! And so is the Lord Almighty!
11:34
[Comment From selangor resident]
Even my Umno friends are sad what BN is doing to the country’s democracy. They are afraid it will be the end of BN in the next general election.
11:34
[Comment From lionheart]
UMNO BN ingat negara ini dia punya harta kah?
11:34
[Comment From KL]
I saw one photo with cloudless blue sky. I sense GOD witnessed the “Proceedings”
11:34
[Comment From Mohd Nor Yasin]
Me and my wife shed tears going tru these live reports and especially with ADUns sitting in the open under a tree!!!! May Allah bless you all and the Perakians. Amin
11:35
[Comment From Ariff]
The birth of democracy from The Tree Of Democracy… Let it plant the seeds of wisdom and justice in all of us and let it grow in all of us and prosper for a better and brighter Malaysia….
11:36
[Comment From BCM]
Semoga Allah memudahkan perjalanan perjuangan pejuang2 semua…kami sentiasa bersama MB NIzar dan semua di PErak..i’allah kita akan memperoleh kemenangan..*TERHARU….bersidang bwh pokok…
11:36
[Comment From Penduduk di Pokok Melaka]
Dari apa yang ditindak oleh BN,dan apa yang dilakukan oleh YAB Datuk Nizar dan Speaker Sivakumar,yang menarik hati rakyat dan dihormati rakyat adalah siapa yang mengikuti undang2 dan Perlembagaan Negeri Perak……sebagai penduduk yang bukan dari Negeri Perak, saya pun sokong Datuk Nizar dan Kumar…..saya SETUJU !!!!
11:37
[Comment From gunungkinabalu]
hai anil..kita semua jadi sejarah..just imagine 20-30 years later I’ll be my late father’s age when he was telling me the terror during zaman perang Jepun how he watch the Jap cutting people heads live in front of him-I was fascinated to hear that..now I also have something to tell my children and my grandchildren, Insya’Allah..keep up an amzing work -blogger united-luv ya!
11:39
[Comment From Sayang Kinabalu]
Bro Anil..boleh tolong ambil bijibenih Pokok Demokrasi tu ka? courier to me…i’ll pay your expenses..I nak tanam depan rumah I…nak bagi tau anak cucu akan ‘perjuangan demokrasi moden negara’..tolong eh?:)
11:42
Today’s Court hearing is because the BN is seeking an injunction to declare any meeting of the state assembly illegal. The proceedings will continue in Chambers in the High Court from 2.30pm.
11:43
[Comment From longsky]
That tree will now become the logo for Perak democracy. Keep it up, PR .
11:44
[Comment From msperak]
hi Anil, i googled and confirmed that perak is named after a tree!
11:44
[Comment From Aru]
This event touches my heart .Its wonderful that they choose a tree to shelter the assembly than the million ringgit state buliding.This is great .I am moved.
11:45
[Comment From neutral man]
hai anil..apa2 yang berlaku di Perak,cuba fikir dgn matang sbg manusia,ikut sahaja lunas undang2, x payah nak bersidang bawah pokok,buat malu Malaysia sahaja.. i tak sokong mana2 pihak tpi sbg rakyat malu dgn tindakan sebegitu, x sabar tggu prosiding mahkamah..mcm gila kuasa..jgn guna alasan demokrasi sewenang2nya..guna kuasa rakyat sewenang2nya..lu fikirlah sendiri..
11:46
[Comment From daughter of parit buntar]
this housewife from kl cannot do any housework..praying for perak.isn’t it interesting bernama not reporting,tv3 also silent on perak.
11:46
[Comment From padma]
ipoh is named after a tree. u can see an ipoh tree at the park in front of the railway station.
11:47
[Comment From Pokku]
ms Perak, IPOH is named after a tree. Perak is not.
11:48
[Comment From Spawn]
The name Ipoh derives from a local tree, pohon epu or now more commonly known as pokok ipoh. The sap of this plant is poisonous and was used by Orang Asli (indigenous people) to coat the tips of the darts of their blowpipes.
11:49
[Comment From Adi Iskandar]
Dear Neutral Man, semua orang mahu mengikut lunas undang2, tetapi.. kalau BN menggunakan undang2 untuk kepentingan sendiri, dimanakah letaknya kedaulatan undang2 itu sendiri utk di ikut oleh orang lain?
11:50
[Comment From Qayyum]
Setiap perkara yg berlaku pasti ada hikmahnya…Mengapa kita perlu bersengketa sesama kita…seharusnya kita bersatu utk menaikkan kembali nama Malaysia di persada di persada global..tetapi sebelum tu pemimpin kita perlulah yg benar2 ikhlas dalam memperjuangkan nasib rakyat…x salah & x memalukan jika bersidang di bawah pokok jika ianya memberikan manfaat kepada rakyat sendiri..renung2kan..
11:51
[Comment From Hj Muhammad Abdullah@TWG]
My heart thumbs n my ears long to hear what separation of powers in democracy really means in practice.Here I earnestly hope for what Raja Nazrin n his Royal Sultan father meant by all what they professed in all their interactions with laymen like me….Long live the Sultan! Let’s now the Rakyat really c what u r made of..my two cents worth…observation from an older senior citizen
11:55
Okay I am about to posted a picture now. .
11:56

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11:57
There you go, folks… the Pokok Demokrasi! Photo by Jong.
12:08

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12:09
Here’s another photo by Jong. You can just about see the Speaker, partially hidden.
12:09
[Comment From onetruevine]
hmmmm, one strong stem and four stately branches.
12:09
[Comment From din kuala]
oh no! they will remove the tree tomorrow,or maybe ask the tree to join BN…
12:10
[Comment From Neutral Man]
Dear anil..kalau betul tak percaya undang2, why PR submit permohonan di mahkamah, i nampak if memihak pada PR, u all sokong, i tak kata UMNO betul..ada jugak yg tak betul..apa kata biar sahaja mahkamah tentukan..kita ada undang2,ada perlembagaan,bukan ikut undang2 sendiri..YAM Sultan Azlan Shah bekas ketua hakim negara, baginda arif tentang undang2,bukan oarang sebarangan mcm kita yng tahu basic undang2 sahaja..thinking positif bukannya ikut perasaan..good job..jgn provok..biar adil..i akan ikuti web u sampai habis..
12:11
[Comment From kate]
I am cautiously optimistic that we the rakyat shall prevail over all this evil work. I was blinded by the msm all these 50 yrs and now, i feel a strong sense of belonging and justice with the Perak ADUN’s. Hidup the real MB of Perak – Nizar, and Syabas to Sivakumar! But folks, remember this afternoon at the courts might be a different kettle of fish! Continue praying, please.
12:11
[Comment From Vinnie]
The tree is now a national treasure… save it at all cost…
12:13
[Comment From az]
The name Ipoh derives from a local tree, pohon epu or now more commonly known as pokok ipoh. The sap of this plant is poisonous and was used by Orang Asli (indigenous people) to coat the tips of the darts of their blowpipes. Ipoh was formerly known as “Paloh” (Chinese: 壩羅) among local Chinese, referring to the gigantic mining pump used for early tin ore extraction. It was also called “the Town built on Tin” (Chinese: 锡城) and “City of Millionaires”, referring to the vast fortunes made during the boom of the tin mining industries.
12:13
[Comment From Mustapa Hamid.]
Besok…pokok tu akan hilang saperti hilang nya 3 katak.
12:13
[Comment From Klang River]
The Holy Quran says: “Certainly Allah was well pleased with the believers when they swore alle­giance to you UNDER THE TREE, and he knew what was in their hearts, so He sent down tranquility on them and rewarded them with a NEAR VICTORY.” (Sura Fath : 18)
12:14
[Comment From Lawa]
Sebagai anak Malaysia dan penyokong BN saya malu dengan tindakan DPM dan kuncunya di Perak D.E. Mulai hari ini saya dan seluruh keluarga serta saudara lain sudah jadi penyokong Pakatan Rakyat. Berambus lah BN
12:15
[Comment From msperak]
that tree has to be preserved, its heritage!! anyone cuttin down that tree will be cursed!! in australia, ppl get fined for cuttin dwn established trees!
12:16
[Comment From Newbeliever]
this is going to be the next Tourist SPOT in IPOH!!!!
12:17
[Comment From Vijay Kumar Murugavell]
The courts, police and MACC are facing the most superior court of the land- The court of public opinion
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This picture is courtesy of blogger delCapo. It shows the Speaker in his full regalia.
12:23
[Comment From Rajes]
Thankyou Anil for the ongoing, vivid and comprehensive live reporting. Democracy in Perak, and therefore, in Malaysia is once again thriving, thanks to God’s timely intervention. We need to pray for divine wisdom for HRH to endorse resolutions of the Assembly. It’s so heartening to see spontaneous support for the Assembly proceedings, especially as it comes from Malaysians of all ethnic and religious backgrounds – a clear demonstration of solidarity and consensus for truth and righteosness. This historic event opens up a new and healthy era in nation-building. God bless New Malaysia.
12:23
[Comment From wudan]
That is a pokok angsana or rainforest tree. I guess it is at least 50 years old. How apt the way events have unfolded under the tree.
12:24
[Comment From MC]
Psa 1:1 God blesses those people who refuse evil advice and won’t follow sinners or join in sneering at God. Psa 1:2 Instead, the Law of the LORD makes them happy, and they think about it day and night. Psa 1:3 They are like TREES growing beside a stream, trees that produce fruit in season and always have leaves. Those people succeed in everything they do. Psa 1:4 That isn’t true of those who are evil, because they are like straw blown by the wind. Psa 1:5 Sinners won’t have an excuse on the day of judgment, and they won’t have a place with the people of God. Psa 1:6 The LORD protects everyone who follows him, but the wicked follow a road that leads to ruin.
12:24
[Comment From SonofPerak]
God bless you Datuk Nizar and YB Siva Psalm 1:3 He will be like a tree firmly planted by streams of water,Which yields its fruit in its seasonAnd its leaf does not wither;And in whatever he does, he prospers.
12:25
[Comment From Dulu BN]
Dulu saya menyokong pemerintahan BN tapi kini saya rasa malu dengan taktik BN yang kurang cekap dan yang berunsur penghinaan terhadap kehendak rakyat.
12:25
[Comment From True Perakboy]
Meeting under a tree!! Whether it was pre-planned or a spontaneous decision… it was just BRILLIANT!
12:28
[Comment From apai saloi]
Am watching from Sydney since early morning of your live blog. Just to contribute to history. The ipoh tree is also used by the IBANS in sarawak as a source of poison for their sumpit or blowpipe.
12:28
[Comment From Jendela]
Whether or not this Pokok Demokrasi survives (or is later chopped down) is not as important as planting more seeds of democracy elsewhere. May Malaysia have many Pokok Demokrasi in every state! (Thanks Anil for your excellent reporting.)
12:29
[Comment From Singam]
Reading the quotations from Qur’an and the Holy Bible that concur brings tears to my eyes. Blessed are we that we can find such harmony.
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12:37
Here’s a section of the crowd at the open-air sitting of the Dewan. Photo by Jong
12:39
[Comment From MC]
Rev 22:2 In the midst of its street, and of the river, from here and from there, was the Tree of Life, which bore twelve fruits, each yielding its fruit according to one month. And the leaves of the tree were for the HEALING of the nations.
12:40
[Comment From KT]
Lyric from a song – When you Believe – Many nights we’ve prayed With no proof anyone could hear In our hearts a hopefull song We barely understood Now we are not afraid Although we know there’s much to fear We were moving mountains long Before we knew we could There can be miracles, when you believe Though hope is frail, it’s hard to kill Who knows what miracles you can achieve When you believe, somehow you will You will when you believe In this time of fear When prayers so often prove in vain Hope seems like the summer birds Too swiftly flown away Yet now I’m standing here My heart’s so full I can’t explain Seeking faith and speaking words I never thought I’d say There can be miracles, when you believe Though hope is frail, it’s hard to kill Who knows what miracles you can achieve When you believe, somehow you will You will when you believe They don’t know it’s often when you ask (Oh) And it’s easy to give in to your fears (Oh…Ohhhh) But when you’re blinded by your pain Can’t see your way straight throught the rain Boy,am i still resilient voice Says love is the relief (Ohhh) There can be miracles (Miracles) When you believe (Lord, when you believe) Though hope is frail (Though hope is frail) It’s hard to kill (Hard to kill, Ohhh) Who knows what miracles,you can achieve When you believe, somehow you will(somehow,somehow, somehow) somehow you will You will when you believe You will when you You will when
12:40
[Comment From JohnBoy]
Blessed are the righteousness for theirs is the Kingdom of God…..Im proud of MB Nizar and YB Sivakumar…the Defender, the Protector of Democracy…..
12:40
[Comment From Apex]
Buddha gained enlightenment while meditating under a tree.
12:41
[Comment From John lee]
PR are just bulls****ers.Whatever they do are always right it seems. Nizar is just a puppet of DAP.
12:43
[Comment From EDWArd]
the righteous are bold as lions but the wicked flee if when no one is pursuing them.Their sins will find them out.This is the infallible law of sowing and reaping
12:44
Ok folks, time to take a break and get some lunch!
12:44 [Standby] Out for lunch!

Source: http://anilnetto.com/democracy/live-from-perak/

916M: Insight: Perak Assembly the Current Ultimate Political Authority for Impasse

Yes, just realised that what we have just stumbled upon a very insightful angle: that the Perak State Assembly is currently the ultimate political authority given the present impasse between BN and Pakatan.

(OK, maybe some of you may have realised before this, but we are now highlighting this again so that the Pakatan folks can push this point across in order that that the present impasse can be broken, and fresh elections brought back to Perakians for them to decide).

We wrote earlier this morning in our post (reproduced below for ease of reference):

The Perak Assembly is the representation of the Perakians voice, and is the highest decision making body of Perak (ie after the people of Perak), to which both the Executive Council and Menteri Besar report to. Given that there is presently a constitutional crisis which has arisen in respect of the office of the Menteri Besar, it is only correct for the Perak Assembly, through the office of the Speaker, take the leadership in resolving the said constitutional crisis.

In this respect, given that the Sultan has only certain prescribed powers, it is only correct for the Perak Assembly to determine in its own accord, and as the voice of the people of Perak, as to how to resolve this crisis. It is only obvious for the Perak Assembly to seek consent of  the Sultan to dissolve the Assembly. (Say that the Sultan does not again give consent for dissolution, it would be appropriate for the Assembly to oversee the management of the state until a solution mutually agreeable by Perak BN and Perak Pakatan is found.)

Yes, the 3 March Emergency Sitting CAN GO ON and MUST GO ON!!!

Over to you, Sivakumar & Co!

916 Movement

916M: Nizar vs Zambry Suit has nothing to do with Perak Assembly: 3 March Emergency Sitting CAN GO ON and MUST GO ON!

March 1, 2009 · No Comments

One thing for sure is that they are poo-ing in the pants.

Ah, why didn’t they say this before Zambry & Co were suspended? Before the suspension, they believed that they were the legitimate Menteri Besar and Executive Council. Now that they are changing tune, ie saying that the Courts will have to decide first suggests that they are running out of places to go.

No, Nizar’s suit is to seek declaration that he is the rightful MB and also seek injunction to prevent Zambry from carrying out the duties of the MB, as well as to seek fresh elections for Perak.

Hence, nothing sought in relation to anything in respect of the Perak Assembly.

The Perak Assembly is the representation of the Perakians voice, and is the highest decision making body of Perak (ie after the people of Perak), to which both the Executive Council and Menteri Besar report to. Given that there is presently a constitutional crisis which has arisen in respect of the office of the Menteri Besar, it is only correct for the Perak Assembly, through the office of the Speaker, take the leadership in resolving the said constitutional crisis.

In this respect, given that the Sultan has only certain prescribed powers, it is only correct for the Perak Assembly to determine in its own accord, and as the voice of the people of Perak, as to how to resolve this crisis. It is only obvious for the Perak Assembly to seek consent of  the Sultan to dissolve the Assembly. (Say that the Sultan does not again give consent for dissolution, it would be appropriate for the Assembly to oversee the management of the state until a solution mutually agreeable by Perak BN and Perak Pakatan is found.)

So, what Najib has said is not correct, the Perak Assembly Emergency Sitting CAN GO ON, and MUST GO ON!!!

916 Movement


The Malaysian Insider: Najib: Emergency Sitting of Perak Assembly can’t be held

KUANTAN, Feb 28 — Datuk Seri Najib Razak said today the Perak state assembly speaker cannot call an emergency sitting of the assembly because the court has yet to make a decision on the status of the government in the state.

The Deputy Prime Minister said any decision to hold a state assembly sitting in Perak depended on the decision made by the court in relation to the case.

“It (sitting) cannot be held because there has been a court action,” he told reporters after opening an assembly of undergraduates of Universiti Malaysia Pahang and the Eastern Zone National Education Carnival here today.

Najib said this when asked to comment on Perak State Assembly Speaker V. Sivakumar yesterday announcing that an emergency sitting of the assembly would be held on Tuesday.

Asked if the sitting was aimed at toppling the Barisan Nasional government in Perak, Najib said: “Whatever it is, we have to wait for the decision of the court first. We have to first establish the status of the Perak government in terms of the constitution.”

On Feb 13 former Perak Menteri Besar Datuk Seri Mohammad Nizar Jamaluddin initiated court action in the Kuala Lumpur High Court to get a declaration that he is the rightful menteri besar of Perak. He also sought an injunction to prevent the new menteri besar, Datuk Dr Zambry Abdul Kadir from carrying out the menteri besar’s duties and for a fresh election to be held in Perak.

Najib said the important thing now was for the new government in Perak to focus on serving the people of the state well.

“The state leaders in Perak must go down to the ground and show the people the new government’s priority is their welfare,” he said.

In TAIPING, Zambry said Sivakumar’s action was ultra vires the Perak constitution and the Standing Orders of the state’s legislature.

“He (Sivakumar) is making his own rules, it’s up to him what he wants to do. He thinks by doing this he can circumvent the Sultan (of Perak) and others… some people say ‘Singh is King’ but I do not know if anyone is saying ‘Siva is King’,” he told reporters after launching the BN’s election machinery for the Bukit Gantang by-election today.

Asked if he would be initiating legal action to prevent the sitting, Zambry said: “That is what he (Sivakumar) wants, bring everything to the courts. We must understand the state constitution and the assembly’s Standing Orders are very clear on these matters. You can interpret them any way you want but they must be followed.”

It is understood the emergency meeting is being called to move a vote of confidence in Mohammad Nizar as the menteri besar of Perak.
With Sivakumar having issued suspension orders on Zambry and his six executive councillors for 18 months and 12 months respectively from attending state assembly sittings and not recognising three lawmakers who defected from their parties as assemblymen, the ousted opposition government thinks it can return to power in Perak as the majority in the assembly now has shifted in its favour (28 versus 21). — Bernama

Source: http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/index.php/malaysia/19391-najib-emergency-sitting-of-perak-assembly-cant-be-held

916M: Nizar vs Zambry Suit has nothing to do with Perak Assembly: 3 March Emergency Sitting CAN GO ON and MUST GO ON!

One thing for sure is that they are poo-ing in the pants.

Ah, why didn’t they say this before Zambry & Co were suspended? Before the suspension, they believed that they were the legitimate Menteri Besar and Executive Council. Now that they are changing tune, ie saying that the Courts will have to decide first suggests that they are running out of places to go.

No, Nizar’s suit is to seek declaration that he is the rightful MB and also seek injunction to prevent Zambry from carrying out the duties of the MB, as well as to seek fresh elections for Perak.

Hence, nothing sought in relation to anything in respect of the Perak Assembly.

The Perak Assembly is the representation of the Perakians voice, and is the highest decision making body of Perak (ie after the people of Perak), to which both the Executive Council and Menteri Besar report to. Given that there is presently a constitutional crisis which has arisen in respect of the office of the Menteri Besar, it is only correct for the Perak Assembly, through the office of the Speaker, take the leadership in resolving the said constitutional crisis.

In this respect, given that the Sultan has only certain prescribed powers, it is only correct for the Perak Assembly to determine in its own accord, and as the voice of the people of Perak, as to how to resolve this crisis. It is only obvious for the Perak Assembly to seek consent of  the Sultan to dissolve the Assembly. (Say that the Sultan does not again give consent for dissolution, it would be appropriate for the Assembly to oversee the management of the state until a solution mutually agreeable by Perak BN and Perak Pakatan is found.)

So, what Najib has said is not correct, the Perak Assembly Emergency Sitting CAN GO ON, and MUST GO ON!!!

916 Movement

The Malaysian Insider: Najib: Emergency Sitting of Perak Assembly can’t be held

KUANTAN, Feb 28 — Datuk Seri Najib Razak said today the Perak state assembly speaker cannot call an emergency sitting of the assembly because the court has yet to make a decision on the status of the government in the state.

The Deputy Prime Minister said any decision to hold a state assembly sitting in Perak depended on the decision made by the court in relation to the case.

“It (sitting) cannot be held because there has been a court action,” he told reporters after opening an assembly of undergraduates of Universiti Malaysia Pahang and the Eastern Zone National Education Carnival here today.

Najib said this when asked to comment on Perak State Assembly Speaker V. Sivakumar yesterday announcing that an emergency sitting of the assembly would be held on Tuesday.

Asked if the sitting was aimed at toppling the Barisan Nasional government in Perak, Najib said: “Whatever it is, we have to wait for the decision of the court first. We have to first establish the status of the Perak government in terms of the constitution.”

On Feb 13 former Perak Menteri Besar Datuk Seri Mohammad Nizar Jamaluddin initiated court action in the Kuala Lumpur High Court to get a declaration that he is the rightful menteri besar of Perak. He also sought an injunction to prevent the new menteri besar, Datuk Dr Zambry Abdul Kadir from carrying out the menteri besar’s duties and for a fresh election to be held in Perak.

Najib said the important thing now was for the new government in Perak to focus on serving the people of the state well.

“The state leaders in Perak must go down to the ground and show the people the new government’s priority is their welfare,” he said.

In TAIPING, Zambry said Sivakumar’s action was ultra vires the Perak constitution and the Standing Orders of the state’s legislature.

“He (Sivakumar) is making his own rules, it’s up to him what he wants to do. He thinks by doing this he can circumvent the Sultan (of Perak) and others… some people say ‘Singh is King’ but I do not know if anyone is saying ‘Siva is King’,” he told reporters after launching the BN’s election machinery for the Bukit Gantang by-election today.

Asked if he would be initiating legal action to prevent the sitting, Zambry said: “That is what he (Sivakumar) wants, bring everything to the courts. We must understand the state constitution and the assembly’s Standing Orders are very clear on these matters. You can interpret them any way you want but they must be followed.”

It is understood the emergency meeting is being called to move a vote of confidence in Mohammad Nizar as the menteri besar of Perak.
With Sivakumar having issued suspension orders on Zambry and his six executive councillors for 18 months and 12 months respectively from attending state assembly sittings and not recognising three lawmakers who defected from their parties as assemblymen, the ousted opposition government thinks it can return to power in Perak as the majority in the assembly now has shifted in its favour (28 versus 21). — Bernama

Source: http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/index.php/malaysia/19391-najib-emergency-sitting-of-perak-assembly-cant-be-held

916M: “Eh, Pandikar Amin, would you like to do a Sivakumar?”

Dear Pandikar Amin

It tickled us when you suggested the other day that Sivakumar ought to be impartial when the latter suspended Zambry & Co. Ah, since when Malaysian Speakers have been impartial? Well, in your case, when were you totally  impartial? Issues of national importance raised before you were often brushed aside on grounds of non-urgency.

Ah, now that we know the Speakers are so powerful, would you like to do a Sivakumar? Do you really have the guts to do a Sivakumar?

If you really have conscience, you can very well see that the Umno boys are really wrecking the country. So, what you can do, when the opportunity presents itself, is to suspend 30+ BN MPs, …

Anyway, just a suggestion.

916 Movement

PAS Legal Adviser Mohamad Hanipa Maidin: When Umno forgot to ‘kidnap’ the speaker

Posted by admin
Saturday, 28 February 2009 13:27

What is interesting about this Perak fiasco is that despite the collapse of the PR government the office of Pakatan’s speaker remains intact. And the most fascinating fact is that even the Sultan has no power to remove the speaker.

By Mohamed Hanipa Maidin, The Malaysian Insider

One tends to make a mistake when doing something in a hurry. That was what happened to Umno. The unholy haste to topple the PR government in Perak has now landed the party in uncharted waters. The side effect is a constitutional impasse.

It all started when Umno forgot about the speaker. Greedy with power, Umno overlooked the importance of the speaker. Their focus was mainly directed to the three former Pakatan state assemblymen. What they failed to realise is that without the speaker on their side they would be facing the greatest obstacle to convene the assembly.

In a non-military coup, the role of speaker is extremely significant. Failure to take into account the role of the speaker is seriously fatal. Now Umno has felt the pinch due to its own ignorance on the role of the speaker.

Umno might have thought that the speaker had nothing to do with the process of ousting Datuk Seri Mohammad Nizar Jamaluddin, thus toppling the legitimate PR government. Thus they concentrated their effort elsewhere. They mainly focused on how to convince the Sultan of Perak to force Nizar’s resignation.

What Umno failed to realise is that the speaker is not akin to Umno’s permanent chairman (pengerusi tetap). If Umno holds that view the party definitely has committed a very serious and grave error. Any government which follows a Westminster model should know very well how important the role of a speaker is particularly when there is an attempt to overthrow a government via a vote of no confidence. In a political coup like what happened in Perak the speaker is a kingpin.

When the speaker started to exert his power and flex his muscles i.e by suspending Barisan Nasional’s Datuk Zambry Abdul Kadir and his six exco members, Umno began to concede its foolhardiness. Zambry had to turn to Prime Minister Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi for assistance. The latter however prescribed a wrong medicine by advising Zambry to lodge a police report. One wonders what business the police have when the matter involves the speaker’s prerogative and constitutional interpretation. Never in history has the police been brought in to investigate the speaker’s power. The constitutional turmoil is beyond the purview of the police domain.

Zambry, I believe, knew very well it was a sheer stupidity to bring the police in. However he and other Umno members have grown up with an embedded culture of blind loyalty to their leaders. It was immaterial, as far as Zambry is concerned, whether Pak Lah gave correct or wrong advice with regard to lodging a police report. Umno’s motto: whenever the higher up says we have to follow blindly. Thus the emergence of 19 reports against V. Sivakumar, the speaker.

If Abdullah had taken pains to get proper legal advice, he surely would have known about the existence of the following laws dealing with the immunity of the speaker, namely the Legislative Assembly (Privileges) Enactment 1959 and Article 72 of the Federal Constitution respectively. These two laws protect the speaker from any civil suit and criminal prosecution whenever he discharges his official duty.

It is submitted that the issue whether the decision of the speaker was legally correct or not does not arise in this matter. The laws,enacted by the BN government, conferred him immunity. The speaker’s decision, unless set aside or quashed by a court of law, was legally valid and binding on Zambry and his six exco members. Non-compliance with the decision of the legitimate speaker is at Zambry’s own peril.

It is axiomatic that almost all countries in the world including Third World countries confer immunity to the speakers of Parliament or the state assembly. There are a plethora of decided cases which show that the speaker’s powers cannot be challenged in any court of law. As far as the court is concerned, the power of the speaker is non-justiciable. It is better to share the following authority with Umno.

In James Eki Mopio vs Speaker of Parliament [1977] PNGLR 420, the case concerned the appointment of Michael Somare as the Prime Minister of Papua New Guinea following the general election. James Eki Mopio, the plaintiff, who was a member of the National Parliament, contended that the requirements of s142(4) of the Constitution were not complied with, and on that ground sought a declaration that the appointment of the prime minister was null and void and that a new election of prime minister should have been ordered..

Section 142(4) of the Constitution provides as follows: “(4) If the Parliament is not in session when a Prime Minister is to be appointed, the Speaker shall immediately call a meeting of the Parliament, and the question of the appointment shall be the first matter for consideration, after any formal business and any nomination of a Governor-General or appointment of a Speaker, on the next sitting day.”

Mopio contended that that section went further than to prescribe the order of business for the next sitting day after the meeting of Parliament had been called, and required that the election of the prime minister was to be conducted on the day following the appointment of the speaker. Mopio also submitted that the section was mandatory and not merely directory so that non-compliance would have the effect in law of invalidating the appointment.

After Mopio outlined his case , a preliminary objection was taken by Pokwari Kale on behalf of the speaker that what Mopio was seeking to do was to litigate before the court the question whether a procedure prescribed for the Parliament had been complied with, and that such a question, there being no special provision in a constitutional law to the contrary, was non-justiciable — Constitution, s. 134. So far as Mopio’s reliance on a breach of the Standing Orders was concerned, Kale submitted that as such orders concerned the order and conduct of Parliament’s business and proceedings that matter also was non-justiciable. (Constitution, ss. 133, 134)

The Supreme Court, in dismissing the suit filed by Mopio, held that the matters concerned with the conduct of the business of Parliament and its procedure. Accordingly as the issues before the court involved the question whether that procedure had been complied with, and also the exercise of the freedom of proceedings of Parliament and the functions and duties of the speaker, the court had no jurisdiction to entertain the case .

Zambry now realises that lodging a police report was not a wise move. Such a move made him a laughing stock. He has to switch to another viable option. Thus came the idea of consulting the QC. Money is not a problem to him. For Pakatan leaders engaging a QC is a reflection of a colonial mentality plus a waste of money. However since when Umno really cares about spending a huge sum of money for its political survival?

What is interesting about this Perak fiasco is that despite the collapse of the PR government the office of Pakatan’s speaker remains intact. And the most fascinating fact is that even the Sultan has no power to remove the speaker. He was appointed by the state assembly, thus the removal must also come from the latter unless he resigns or no longer holds office as an assemblyman.

Since the speaker has not lost his office it follows that he still possesses very vast powers in so far as the business of state assembly is concerned. He has inter alia very wide powers to suspend any state assemblymen as he did to Zambry and the six BN exco members. As far as the “three stooges” (don’t tell me you don’t know who they are) are concerned they are no longer assemblymen. The speaker has already made a ruling that their resignations were valid and constitutional under Article 35 of Perak’s Constitution. Even if they consider themselves assemblymen they only represent the Elections Commission and not the rakyat of their respective constituency.

Umno may be proud that the Sultan has backed it in ousting the Pakatan government of Perak. But what transpires now seems to suggest that the life of the BN government is hinging now on the speaker of the PR government which it unjustifiably ousted via undemocratic means.

Mohamed Hanipa Maidin is the Pas legal adviser. He is also a lawyer.

http://mt.m2day.org/2008/content/view/18648/84/


916M: Making Sense: Welcome to the New World of Malaysian Political Thugs

You know what? It is really true that these thugs did not touch anyone. Just take a look at the third picture below, the guy in purple did not touch the other guy, his palms were just 1mm above this other guys’ chest, he was just checking the heartbeat of this other guy.

Welcome to the New World of Malaysian Political Thugs.

“If  you call us celaka, we will demand an apology (but it is OK for us to call you a pendatang).”

“If you question our rights, we will mobilise street protests (and it is NOT OK if you take to the streets for we do not condone mob culture).”

“If you dare touch the Royalty, we will defend them till the last drop of our blood (well, nevermind about the fact that we had removed the royal immunity many years back).”

This is the Malaysian Democracy.

Well, this is for now the current lop-sided Malaysian Democracy.

But, not for long.

This will have to change, the time will come; let us be patient.

True Democracy is where people agree to disagree; but whilst frank, people must be sincere and diplomatic. So, yes, if you say something we do not like, let us talk it over. If we do not agree with what you say, and if you do not agree with what we say, then let us see if we can accept each other. Let us see if we can meet halfway. Let us give and take.

Let us build for the future of our next generations.

916 Movement

MalaysiaKini: Pemuda Umno: MP Pakatan punca kecoh
Muda Mohd Noor | Feb 27, 09 6:01pm

Seorang ketua Pemuda Umno bahagian mendakwa kekecohan di bangunan Parlimen berpunca daripada tindakan dua ahli parlimen Pakatan Rakyat yang menerpa rombongan ketua-ketua Pemuda Umno ketika mereka sedang berbincang dengan pengerusi DAP Karpal Singh.

Lat Shahrizat Abdullah, yang turut berada di tempat kejadian mendakwa, dua ahli parlimen pembangkang tersebut telah menimbulkan provokasi sehingga menimbulkan keadaan tegang.

violent attack towards dap karpal singh and lim lip eng at parliament 260209 sequenceKetua Pemuda Petaling Jaya Utara (PJU) mendakwa lagi, tindakan provokasi mereka itu, hampir mencetuskan kejadian tidak diingini.

Wakil-wakil rakyat yang dimaksudkan olehnya itu dipercayai N Gobalakrishan (PKR-Padang Serai) dan Lim Lip Eng (DAP-Segambut).

“Mereka berdua menerpa kita, kita terpa mereka tetapi tidak sempat bertumbuk kerana dileraikan.

“(Tetapi) mereka yang mengasari kita, bukan kita yang mengasari mereka,” katanya ketika dihubungi Malaysiakini hari ini.

Menceritakan kejadian tersebut, Lat berkata, 12 ketua Pemuda Umno bahagian dari Selangor bersama 10 penyokong pergi ke bangunan Parlimen kerana ada temujanji makan tengahari dengan seorang timbalan menteri.

Bagaimanapun, ketika berjalan pulang, mereka terserempak dengan Karpal yang sedang masuk ke dalam dewan dari bangunan pentadbiran Parlimen.

Cabar ulang di luar Parlimen

“Kami menghampirinya dan bertanya ‘mengapa anda kata Pemuda Umno celaka. Kamu jangan berselindung di sebalik kekebalan bangunan Parlimen.”

“Karpal menjawab ‘saya malas nak layan kamu, saya nak masuk dewan Parlimen’,” kata Lat lagi.

Sementara Ketua Pemuda Umno bahagian Serdang, Ungku Salleh Ungku Jamal yang turut hadir semalam berkata, rombongan Pemuda itu mencabar Karpal mengulangi perkataan “Pemuda Umno celaka” di luar dewan Parlimen.

Bagaimanapun, pemimpin kanan DAP itu enggan berbuat demikian, katanya ketika dihubungi hari ini.

Ditanya mengenai punca kekecohan itu, Ungku Salleh mendakwa, ia berlaku kerana tindakan Lim yang bertindak keterlaluan.

“Kita tidak ada masalah dengan Karpal, cuma Lim yang menyebabkan ia menjadi kecoh,” katanya.

Ungku Salleh juga menjelaskan pihak polis belum mengambil sebarang keterangan daripada beliau berhubung kejadian tersebut.

http://malaysiakini.com/news/99255

MalaysiaKini: Pemuda enggan minta maaf isu Karpal
Jimadie Shah Othman | Feb 27, 09 6:44pm
Pemuda Umno tidak akan meminta maaf ekoran tindakan sekumpulan anggota pergerakan itu yang didakwa mengepung pengerusi DAP, Karpal Singh di Parlimen semalam.

hishamuddin husseinKetuanya, Datuk Hishammuddin Hussein berkata demikian ketika diminta mengulas kenyataan pemimpin DAP, Lim Kit Siang yang menuntut pergerakan itu memohon maaf.

“Tidak timbul isu minta maaf. Provokasi ini bukan kali pertama, dengan menuduhkan kita celaka, tuduh kita terlibat (menghantar) peluru (kepada Karpal) dan isu-isu membabit Raja-raja Melayu dan kedaulatannya.

“Kalau diheret ke mahkamah pun saya sanggup lakukan untuk memperjelaskan apa yang berlaku,” katanya selepas menghadiri persidangan antarabangsa pemuda mengenai keganasan di ibunegara hari ini.

Raja Muda Perak, Raja Nazrin Shah menyampaikan titah diraja sempena persidangan tersebut petang ini.

Ditanya mengenai kejadian semalam, Hishammuddin yang juga menteri pelajaran berkata: “Saya tidak arah dan tidak tahu (kejadian semalam)… jadi tidak timbul isu minta maaf.”

Sebaliknya ditanya sama ada pihaknya akan menuntut Karpal minta maaf kerana memanggil Pemuda Umno ‘celaka’, Hisham berkata: “Kalau minta pun, kita tahu dia tidak akan lakukan.”

Ditanya sama ada kekecohan di Parlimen semalam akan menjejaskan imej Umno berkata, ia hanya membabitkan segelintir sahaja anggota Pemuda Umno.

“…tak sampai 15 hingga 20 orang, takkanlah tindakan segelintir itu akan menjejaskan imej kesemua Pemuda Umno dan Pemuda BN.”

Hishammuddin juga mendakwa tindakan Karpal memanggil ‘celaka’ kepada Pemuda Umno sebagai satu provokasi.

http://malaysiakini.com/news/99259